Canadian sniper sets new record

[Gargamel]

I think the BBC article I read stated somebody else holds (Austrian maybe?) the 2nd spot now, and the other Canadian holds the third. I was surprised at that, as I thought the Canadian was still the longest until this one.

What gets me is the ten second flight time. That's a long wait to see if you hit or not....

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

[...]What gets me is the ten second flight time. That's a long wait to see if you hit or not....

As someone said "in this time you could have sent him a message to duck"..
I just have my doubts about "insurgents" and killing from far away, like here, or with drones. If the victim really was an enemy, ok.

[Rockin Robbins]

At that distance there is a lot of randomness in the result. Sending the victim a message to duck could easily with the same shot, have meant he ducked into the oncoming bullet!

Although skill is involved, I think we can chock up the actual hit to a random number generator. Nobody could hit one of 20 such shots.

[Gargamel]

It may have been a low % shot, but the risk of return fire is nill. At least from the targets.

I keep thinking about this and it keeps getting weirder. Fred drops dead from a gunshot wound. They start looking around for who ever shot Fred. And then they hear the gunshot, if they do at all, and think it's a second shot. And more likely, the gunshot would have faded so much in that time, they would have written it off as not associated with them.

If you start think in relative distances, it gets even more weird.

This is the length of a long international runway (Side note, the wikipedia page for runways in enjoyably highly detailed.)

This is roughly the elevation change from the summit of Everest to Base Camp.

It's the length of the National Mall in DC.

It's just shorter than a lap of both Daytona and Indy speedways.

It's 1/3 of the depth of the Challenger Deep.

3 times the height of Angel Falls.

4 times the height of the Burj Khalifa.

6 times as tall as the CN tower.

(http://www.bluebulbprojects.com/Meas...00&sort=pr&p=1) Which happens to be a new bookmark of mine.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

At that distance there is a lot of randomness in the result. Sending the victim a message to duck could easily with the same shot, have meant he ducked into the oncoming bullet!

Although skill is involved, I think we can chock up the actual hit to a random number generator. Nobody could hit one of 20 such shots.

Totally agree but most importantly....one less bad boy

[Cybermat47]

I'd be interested to know what the daeshbag was doing in those 10 seconds. I guess he must've been taking cover.

[ikalugin]

1 MOA groups are about as good as you can realistically get.

So a skilled shooter with a good weapon under normal conditions can achieve them, but not (repeatably) surpass them.

Which is why stuff like exacto is being developed.

p.s. I use .300winmag for longer than average ranges but in my area you simply dont get 3.5km LOS ranges in the wilds.

[Moonlight]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

I'd be interested to know what the daeshbag was doing in those 10 seconds. I guess he must've been taking cover.

That's not a possibility, if he was moving or even standing to sit down the odds of getting a hit decrease substantially and it becomes a shot that's not worth taking.
I would expect him to have been static, ie, either stood still or sat down and either drinking from a bottle or eating a sandwich or even on a mobile phone, even sat down the odds of getting a hit are lowered even further and very few snipers would risk a shot, no sniper is going to take risks, they're either certain of the hit or they don't take it.

That's just my opinion of course which around this forum I've noticed that its not worth much.

[Gargamel]

Originally Posted by Moonlight

That's not a possibility, if he was moving or even standing to sit down the odds of getting a hit decrease substantially and it becomes a shot that's not worth taking.
I would expect him to have been static, ie, either stood still or sat down and either drinking from a bottle or eating a sandwich or even on a mobile phone, even sat down the odds of getting a hit are lowered even further and very few snipers would risk a shot, no sniper is going to take risks, they're either certain of the hit or they don't take it.

That's just my opinion of course which around this forum I've noticed that its not worth much.

No, you're dead on here. The bullet would have arrived long before the sound would have (If it was even noticeable). The target would have had no warning at all, and would have just been standing there sipping his latte.

Originally Posted by Moonlight

no sniper is going to take risks, they're either certain of the hit or they don't take it.

This very shot proves you wrong though.

A shot at over 1500m is never a certain hit, and that has nothing to do with the skills of the sniper team.
Too many factors play a role and at these ranges, a wind gust 1km from your current position can ruin it all, no matter how good your data is. The target also could have moved at any moment during the loooong time of flight, causing a miss.
And at 3500m? Jesus...

In the end this was a simple "why the hell not?" shot, resulting in what can be compared with a hole in one at golf. It can happen... But it has nothing to do with being certain.
They probably couldn't believe they actually did hit themselves for a moment. On first shot as well. Crazy!


Oh, fun fact: the bullet basically struck the target from above at this range due to ballistics. His buddies saw something they won't forget for a while...tehehe.