My 688 must have a squeek

[VizlaN]

Originally Posted by Tinman764

We fired, I bumped up through the layer expecting the Alpha and his torps to lose contact with me. Nope, they ploughed straight through into me.

After the AI has a solution and fired at you, it knows exactly where you are no matter what you do. Devs are aware of it, but will probably take some time to do what I assume will be a full rework to an AI that does not cheat. Same goes for surface vessels.
For now, be aware they do not properly adjust for depth, so if you have the option go deep if he is shallow and vice versa, and they are not good at properly setting activation range(viable strategy is to for instance go deep and turn towards the torpedo so it activates past you).

[Tinman764]

I just made a seperate post, I think I've discovered a bug with the distance scale option.

Basically, if you have the distance scale set to 1/1 then as soon as you start the mission it seem that any active sonar immediately detects you with a score over 10. If you leave the distance scale alone at 1/2 then any active sonar starts with a score below 0.

[Julhelm]

Originally Posted by VizlaN

After the AI has a solution and fired at you, it knows exactly where you are no matter what you do. Devs are aware of it, but will probably take some time to do what I assume will be a full rework to an AI that does not cheat. Same goes for surface vessels.
For now, be aware they do not properly adjust for depth, so if you have the option go deep if he is shallow and vice versa, and they are not good at properly setting activation range(viable strategy is to for instance go deep and turn towards the torpedo so it activates past you).

That's not true. The reason they know where you are is because they keep pinging you, updating your position. So if you can escape their active range they will lose you. The main problem is that submarines seem to share information when they should not.

[PL_Harpoon]

Originally Posted by Julhelm

The main problem is that submarines seem to share information when they should not.

I assumed they're using some kind of underwater telephone for that (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_telephone)

[VizlaN]

Originally Posted by Julhelm

That's not true. The reason they know where you are is because they keep pinging you, updating your position. So if you can escape their active range they will lose you. The main problem is that submarines seem to share information when they should not.

What is the explanation for the behavior I linked you in the video last week, vs one sub that had -20 on SNS COMP active/-30 passive and torpedo still tracking perfectly? For reference:


You said you would pass it on to the programmer, was that not done or was what you just said what came back even tho the video shows only one sub?

[Delgard]

I carry a can of WD-40.

[Julhelm]

Originally Posted by VizlaN

What is the explanation for the behavior I linked you in the video last week, vs one sub that had -20 on SNS COMP active/-30 passive and torpedo still tracking perfectly? For reference:


You said you would pass it on to the programmer, was that not done or was what you just said what came back even tho the video shows only one sub?

That's been fixed.

[VizlaN]

Originally Posted by Julhelm

That's been fixed.

Something is still off about how the AI subs target you. One active ping(from your ship) is all it takes most of the time for them to know exactly where you are and do a launch, while for you it takes a lot of pings from the enemy before you know with a high confidence. This is excluding them picking you up on passive or already having a partial solution from active pinging. I believe you mentioned before that they will not fire before an 80% solution is reached?

Still need to fix ships. They know your speed and bearing when launching counter-missiles after detected an incoming missile, even tho you change course and speed significantly after launch while being too far out for any detection(outside the obvious smoke-trail).

Also, were helicopters this useless in real life? First off they detect sound up until the point the microphone reaches the heli, not when it comes above surface. Minor, don't really care too much just an FYI. But, I'm able to easily get away from them even while cavitating above layer. Just need a mayor course change when the heli lifts to a new spot, and about 6-7 times out of 10 they loose you even tho ships 10k+ yards away are able to pick you up.