EU was Hitler's idea

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by August

My money is still on Napoleon as the original EU visionary.

Yeah, before he got the boot off Wellington

[August]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Yeah, before he got the boot off Wellington

England, giving continental tyrants the boot since 1067.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by August

England, giving continental tyrants the boot since 1067.

Right now we can't afford sufficient boots for the handful of soldiers remaining in our army

[Catfish]

"I have taken England with both my hands"
"Plots were hatched and rebellions, and all the duchy was ablaze with fire"
William the Conqueror was also a 'continental tyrant'
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/timelines/zp88wmn)
Since then things have been more or less stable in England, if not in the rest of the world under England's.. influence.
Of couse, from 1714 to 1837, there was a german king on the british throne, Georg Ludwig, called King George the 1st, then Elector of Hannover, was crowned King of Great Britain. The Kingdom of Hannover was then governed by the personal union for 123 years. The Welfs or Guelphs were then replaced by Queen Victoria of the House of Saxe-Coburg Gotha.. and the rest is history.

[August]

Originally Posted by Catfish

"I have taken England with both my hands"
"Plots were hatched and rebellions, and all the duchy was ablaze with fire"
William the Conqueror was also a 'continental tyrant'

I'd disagree. William was not a continental tyrant, at least in the class of Napoleon or hitler. He did not attempt to bring the entire content under a single economic and political system. I guess he might have tried given the ability but if we're going to count every strong man and potentate in European history who dreamt of having such power we'd probably have to name some caveman chief as the original EU visionary.

I just think Napoleon was the first to have a serious shot at pulling it off.

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Right now we can't afford sufficient boots for the handful of soldiers remaining in our army

You mean in your British Division?

 

(b/c British Armed Forces could not deploy an Army type formation)