I'm A Deplorable,, and Proud of it

[Skybird]

Beside religious zealots and creationists entering the administration I'm most concerned about Trump's family. Two sons and one daughter (ignoring the forgotten daughter...) lead his Trump business empire: properties, hotels, golf ressorts. They maintain business contacts and hold stock for ovber 500 international companies, many in countries with whom relations between them and the US are - uneasy. There is a real risk of nepotism and family corruption here.

And watch out for his daughter, she may the be real smarthead here, avoiding so far to blow the provoking tunes her father plays on his horn and so offers a smaller profile to attack, but having his trust and leading the heart of the Trumpire. I think she is one of those who build dominance and key influence silently, behind the stage curtains. His sons do not impress me so far, but his daughter rings my alarm bells.

As far as anti-abortionists go: this is an issue Amercians have to come to terms with, its of internal relevanc eonly and has no international relevance.

Creatonists raping the public educations ystem - this one affects the education fundament, university, the achademic superiority of the American society in the world and one of the key pillars of American dominance. Its a very bad idea to have tuch nutheads havign a say in education, since it creates fallout on scientific research as well. And this could backfire dearly on America'S power. It could alos breed future generations of business and leaders thinking in these "esoteric" terms, and then could produce fallout for all world there is as well. So red light blinking on this.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Beside religious zealots and creationists entering the administration I'm most concerned about Trump's family. Two sons and one daughter (ignoring the forgotten daughter...) lead his Trump business empire: properties, hotels, golf ressorts. They maintain business contacts and hold stock for ovber 500 international companies, many in countries with whom relations between them and the US are - uneasy. There is a real risk of nepotism and family corruption here.

And watch out for his daughter, she may the be real smarthead here, avoiding so far to blow the provoking tunes her father plays on his horn and so offers a smaller profile to attack, but having his trust and leading the heart of the Trumpire. I think she is one of those who build dominance and key influence silently, behind the stage curtains. His sons do not impress me so far, but his daughter rings my alarm bells.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3110

(2) “public official” means an officer (including the President...

(b) A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official.

[Gray Lensman]

A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official.

Let's see...

Exceptions to this...

Start with Robert Kennedy (Attorney General during John Kennedy's administration)

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Gray Lensman

Let's see...

Exceptions to this...

Start with Robert Kennedy (Attorney General during John Kennedy's administration)

From what I understand the law I quoted was passed in 1967. Robert Kennedy served as Attorney General from 1961 to 1964. Know any others?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by u crank

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3110

You dont want to tell me that you really are naive enough to assume just because there is a law banning criminal behaviour, there is no criminal behaviour anmyore?

These people are FAMILY. They talk together, they eat together, they share holidays together and so on. Son number 1 may suggest an issue he has with his directoring duties, and president Trump makes a mental note of it, and so new legislation may get started. You cannot prevent this by filling the date into a form and poutting an official stamp on it and then think this prevents it. It doesn't.

Or his daughter, said to have good chances to get an influential job as press secretary of the WH, or however they call the job. Family members sharing jobs in politicis or in business while you are president - that is always a very critical issue, and easily leads to monarchy-like dynasties, and nepotism. Of course - nobody will admit he pulled the cat'S tail. At best he will admit that maybe he just held it tight. If the cat had not put the tail in his hand all by itself...

Laws do not change that. There are so many ways to suggest things without needing to suggest them. And to command for things without ever giving an actual order. A raise of the eyebrow. A casual glance with the eyes. A long delay before answering. And the others knows what to do, even if it never gets spoken out.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

You dont want to tell me that you really are naive enough to assume just because there is a law banning criminal behaviour, there is no criminal behaviour anmyore?

These people are FAMILY. They talk together, they eat together, they share holidays together and so on. Son number 1 may suggest an issue he has with his directoring duties, and president Trump makes a mental note of it, and so new legislation may get started. You cannot prevent this by filling the date into a form and poutting an official stamp on it and then think this prevents it. It doesn't.

And I hope that you are not naive enough to believe that what you are suggesting has never happened before. There is a very big difference between an actual official appointment to a position and hearing and accepting advice from friends and family members. Yes/no?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by u crank

And I hope that you are not naive enough to believe that what you are suggesting has never happened before. There is a very big difference between an actual official appointment to a position and hearing and accepting advice from friends and family members. Yes/no?

So if the presdient gets told by family that the empire he handed them over suffers profits not made and then informally but effectively adjusts his policy so that his former empire whith which he formally is no longer connected must not "suffer" - that now is just "family advise", eh?

Not to mention to do his former empire favours regarding said business empires' stock holdings and business ties with countries the Us would or should not get linked with? As I said: over 500 of such names? Just "family advise" again, I assume?

Nepotism that would be, plain and simple.

Bureaucrats never deal with reality. Only with their model of it. Thats why their rules so often do not connect to real life. And that is especially true for politics. Reality does not care for ideas and ideals and ideologies. Reality is, and it is indecent enough to not ask for permission to be that.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

So if the presdient gets told by family that the empire he handed them over suffers profits not made and then informally but effectively adjusts his policy so that his former empire whith which he formally is no longer connected must not "suffer" - that now is just "family advise", eh?

Not to mention to do his former empire favours regarding said business empires' stock holdings and business ties with countries the Us would or should not get linked with? As I said: over 500 of such names? Just "family advise" again, I assume?

Nepotism that would be, plain and simple.

I don't think that anyone is foolish enough to believe that it doesn't happen. The law was put in place to prevent any 'official' Nepotism. It happens all the time , everywhere and from the president down to the dog catcher. Don't worry about the Trumps. They do just fine.

[Wolferz]

Need to siddown and shuddup.

It Makes me glad that I didn't get involved this go around.

No one can point a finger at me.
Besides, I was left with no choice but to abstain because I could not choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.
Our flag is still red, white and blue. Our population is still black, white and numerous shades of brown and we elevated our one orange guy to the top of the heap.
I say to our cousins around the world, "Deal with it! and mind your own knitting."