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Old 08-17-16, 12:20 PM   #106
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Of course poor Joe Hill found out sooner than most!


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[QUOTE=Joe Hill] "Goodbye Bill. I die like a true blue rebel. Don't waste any time in mourning. Organize... Could you arrange to have my body hauled to the state line to be buried? I don't want to be found dead in Utah."[[QUOTE]
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Old 08-17-16, 12:43 PM   #107
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Seems to be clear to me whatever happens, I won't be around to concern myself with it. I'm here now feeding on whatever plant or animal is on my plate, I guess I'll return the favour and be on some micro organism's plate and we can call it even.
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Old 08-17-16, 01:34 PM   #108
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I believe that when we die our spirit joins with the creator if we haven't rejected his existence. Now maybe i'm wrong and the atheists who think it all ends when our heart stops beating are right but I figure that only those who believe as I do will have a chance of finding out one way or the other.
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Old 08-17-16, 02:02 PM   #109
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Over here we have forests where you can get tree burials. Your ashes get buried by the roots of a tree in a compostable urn so that your ashes are returned to the circle of life. My family has chosen this way of burial and we have now a family tree under which we all will be "reunited" one day (my father is already there.).

That might be an option for you if that's available in Slovenia as well.
Problem is with my fammily. If I die old and "padre de familia" then they will sinply do what I requested and I can go easily in my bed. Supported by a legal letter demanding not to be burried in a cemetary.
My parents and grandmother though, I don't trust them to uphold such unortodox wishes. If I'll die young I'll have to make sure I dont end up behind the church.
I had a few discussions about this topic with them and was dismissed as being moronic
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Old 08-17-16, 02:58 PM   #110
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It would be too boring to play harps for eternity ....
Mark Twain once told of how, as a child, when he asked an older relative what heaven was like, he was told it was like being in church foe eternity; Twain said he had thought long on the concept, and, if being in church for eternity wasn't hell, he didn't know what was; he also is quoted as saying "Heaven for the climate, Hell for the companionship". Someone once asked me if I wanted to go to heaven and I said, "No." When asked why not: "I don't like the idea of being alone for eternity"...


A popular theory is if you dream and you die in the dream, you will die in real life, at the same time. I have had two dreams where I have died, each by different means. I am still here, alive; either I am alive and the theory is therefore wrong, or I am actually dead and I must have done something really heinous to deserve this hell...

In my death dreams, at the moment of death, it was just like suddenly being in a void; I was aware but there was nothing around me nor any sound; it was just existence in nothing. Back in 2004, I had major surgery occasioned by a severe attack of pancreatitis. After the surgery, the surgeon (there were actually three who performed the operation) was giving me details about the surgery and told me my blood pressure had dropped to such an alarming level they were unsure of whether they could actually operate and save my life. I had been drifting in and out of consciousness when the ambulance had taken me to the emergency room; I was conscious when I was wheeled into the operating room; I recall it was windowless and looked akin to those setups you see where they give condemned prisoners fatal injections. When they gave me the anesthesia, I was told to count backwards from 100; I got to 98. At that point I was fully out for the surgeons, but I was in that same "death" state I had experienced in my dreams: a sudden flip of the switch and a void. Oddly, I recall actually commenting to myself "Wow, that was fast!". I seemed to be aware for several seconds more before I lost all sense. I think about that experience every once in a while and wonder, given the surgeon's later description of my condition before surgery, if I might not have flirted with eternity at the moment the anesthesia took hold...



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Old 08-17-16, 03:09 PM   #111
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Old 08-17-16, 03:20 PM   #112
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It is said that all dogs go to heaven.

I hope that my past dogs will put in a good word for me so I can visit them once in a while.
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Old 08-17-16, 03:25 PM   #113
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Just be sure you keep them in kibble...




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Old 08-17-16, 06:14 PM   #114
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Where did all of those ghost movies come from?

Ghost are real it's just that nobody can prove it, right?

They are on one side and we humans are on the other, but they can't talk to us or if they do everyone would say, "Hey man your crazy ghost can't talk"

I saw a ghost one time in an old neighborhood with houses that looked like they came out of those spooky movies and as I was walking by a ghost or a spirit or whatever followed me from one window to another window as I picked up my pace and realized that the house must have had walls ... how did that thing do that just pass through walls?
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Old 08-17-16, 06:31 PM   #115
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Where did all of those ghost movies come from?

Ghost are real it's just that nobody can prove it, right?

They are on one side and we humans are on the other, but they can't talk to us or if they do everyone would say, "Hey man your crazy ghost can't talk"

I saw a ghost one time in an old neighborhood with houses that looked like they came out of those spooky movies and as I was walking by a ghost or a spirit or whatever followed me from one window to another window as I picked up my pace and realized that the house must have had walls ... how did that thing do that just pass through walls?
Maybe the house had doors?
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Old 08-17-16, 06:38 PM   #116
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I believe that when we die our spirit joins with the creator if we haven't rejected his existence. Now maybe i'm wrong and the atheists who think it all ends when our heart stops beating are right but I figure that only those who believe as I do will have a chance of finding out one way or the other.
I wouldn't want you to think I'm an atheist, August: I'm just agnostic.
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Old 08-17-16, 06:55 PM   #117
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I believe that when we die our spirit joins with the creator if we haven't rejected his existence. Now maybe i'm wrong and the atheists who think it all ends when our heart stops beating are right but I figure that only those who believe as I do will have a chance of finding out one way or the other.
I'll add one thing, have NO doubts.
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Old 08-17-16, 08:03 PM   #118
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A popular theory is if you dream and you die in the dream, you will die in real life, at the same time.
I would call it a belief rather than a theory. I was first told that by a classmate when I was fifteen. Even then my immediate response was "How would anyone know?" We can monitor when people are dreaming, but we don't know what they're dreaming. If we don't know what someone is dreaming unless he wakes up and tells us, how could we possibly know what someone is dreaming if they never wake up?
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Old 08-17-16, 08:12 PM   #119
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I don't know what will happen after I die. (But if my friends and family follow my wishes, it's going to involve a hearse, the sound system from an ice cream truck, and a lot of sad kids.)
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Old 08-17-16, 08:49 PM   #120
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I didn't exist in past eternity and it didn't bother me a bit, nor will it in a future eternity. Who knows, 1000's of religions over history have had their own versions of what happens, usually with each if u accept you go to some heaven, if u reject, that God tortures you forever.. I grew up in the Christian tradition and had no problem believing billions of others that didn't believe it would go to hell forever to be tortured and deserved it. Only problem I guess if I'm wrong and one of them are right, If I was indoctrinated and sincere in the wrong thing....I would plead to God I tried and didn't know any better....course each religion basically says ....too bad for you.

Sure, who wouldn't love to live for ever and see all their friends and family again, but I see zero evidence for it, except possibly something bigger exist, but if it takes me figuring out the right religion or method to get there, I'm probably doomed.
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