So What Do You Think Happens After You Die?????
 

I've noticed a number of threads here with regards to religion.

Question #1: What do you think happens to you after you die?????
Is there another world that you move on to?????.......and if so what is it like??????

Question #2: Do you think the last moments before death are painfull??????

Post your comments and ideas.

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Jewish view of afterlife.
Isn't that dependent on each case of death? :-?

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I decay 6 feet below the ground. Nothing else will happen.

Well, that depends on how you die! ;) If I burn to death it will be very painful, if I slowly die of cancer it will be not (tons of painkillers...).

i guess we'll all find out eventually. someone's gonna be disappointed, though.

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"the soul is shown two videotapes"??? :lol:

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The article is out of date.

It should have said "two DVDs".

Q1 i think thats it your finnished no after life once your buried your beried

Q2 only in some circumstancies is it painful car crash plane crash ect..

Who can know what happens? I believe that we create these extravagant religions so as to alay our immense fear of death. Especially our modern culture has an extreme fear of the afterlife. We are the first culture to fear death above dishonour. Maybe it was the reality shock from the World Wars or maybe science has created doubt but it seems that faith is a sham amongst many people.

I have no idea what happens after death and choose not to care. I care about this life and I want to live a good decent life and I want to be a good person. We cant hope to be more than that and I think in our ultimate fear of the afterlife we neglect this life and ultimately waste our humanity.

As for pain in death it all depends on circumstances.

I can't even say what's going to happen tomorrow.... who can say what happens after we die?

I didn't think I would post again on this thread because I thought it enough to answer questions 1 and 2 in my opinion and be done with it. But your post needs a short response.

To the best of my knowledge, all major religions do not worship death nor have the built themselves around it.

Similar to your cares, most religions concentrate on doing the right things in this world in order to attain a better status - whatever that may mean - in a world after death - whatever that may mean.

Whether you believe in a religion or not is one thing but don't preface your belief's foundations with a definition of religions which essentially isn't correct, neither philosophically nor historically.

well put :up:

Sad, sad, little man.

Get a Palm Pilot.

This is an interesting question :up:

Let me begin with a very basic consideration: What are WE? Exactly, what defines you, me, and others who we see daily, and makes them different from the rest, unique, and -what is more important- self conscious?

Well that thing is personality, your own sum of experiences, accumulated during years, influenced by physical items at many times (Hormones, pain, joy), which finally defines your "I" or "ego"

So the first thing we should talk about when considering the existance of something after this life is: What part of me will go into that?

It is basically clear that your body will NOT. That already eliminates a good part of your personality: If you like McDonalds, Bourbon, Beer on friday or other activities related to physical and/or mental diversions, connected to primary instincts (F.e. you like to watch soccer as a modern, civilized & accepted exteriorization of our tribal and competitive instincts), then those all are not going to be present in your personality after you die. They will not because there will no longer be a body to send your consciouness the signals of pleasure those activities provided here in the earth.

So we know already that what would eventually transfer to another dimension is our abstract intelligence, plus the self-consciousness.

But what about a one month child who dies? And what about a mentally handycapped or subnormal person? Are they also to spend eternity in a nearly idiotized status?

All religions have in themselves a form or another of describing life after death. Basically, and letting aside some very primary description (Quran and teh paradise with huries) they accept eternity as a permanent connection of the good and purified souls with God. This shall result in a state of permanent joy, for all eternity, adn equals to paradise: No fear, no heat, no cold, no concern, just basic communion and joy.

That results in a basic status that is equal for all souls, because once our earthly concerns, motivations, joys, pains, etc. are separated from our soul, it just the primary spiritual impulses what is left: Love, peace, spiritual balance.

So, in a word, if you are to believe in a religion and think that there is life after death, then you should know that your destiny is similar to any addict to drugs here at earth: You will gain a permanent idiotized status of joy, mental disabilitation, peace, rest and lose all the characteristics that defined you in this earth, except your self-identity. Put it in another words, you will suffer a brain-wash or mental reset, where only your primary spiritual functions will remain.

How come that? Well, how else would a child or a mentally hadycapped person be able to be equal to you? Note that your very own personality, the one that produces your impulses and determines your rational reactions is just a result of the sum of yoru experiences and education.

A fully different education or experiences (F.e. experiences of hate and pain produce a different personality than those of joy and security) would have produced a very different "You". Only the minimum spiritual impulses are the same, but they have NOTHING to do with your consicousness.

So if christians or jews or muslims are right, when you die you will be like a PC gone through a reformat process: It works the basics and the led is on, but it is unable to do anything but keep his "turned on" status.

Otherwise, and after the two videotapes (Or DVDs) the Avon Lady referred to are played for those who have consciousness (Not for aborted criatures -who have soul- or for vegetal status mentally handycapped, or for too young children or babies), it would be IMPOSSIBLE to reset all to a same status!

That is, unless you give for example a child who dies with just one month of life an artificial experience and life, implanted in his mind (Like in the Matrix film).

I have now a son who is six months old. What is common between me and him? Basically that ability to joy and pain (physically), and not even the ability to joy and pain spiritually. For to have spiritual joy and pain you need INTELLIGENCE, which is simply the ability to use in logical proposals the sum of experience we have had in our lifes.

So what good is to have a life after death if we will not be able to keep our personality, i.e. the very same essence of what we call "I" or "Me"???

What good is to have Hitler's soul burn in hell if his personality will dissappear?

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Then of course there is the alternative of us simply dissapearing, like what happens when you have an accident and are in a vegetal status.

This is obviously the alternative, and it also provides the end of pain and joy. :up:

There comes the big question: Why should there be a life after death, if ther was no life before birth? :know:

And the second one: Why should ther be a life after birth, if there was no life before it? :know: :know:

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My personal conclussions remain the same: I can see that there is a God through rational evidence, but I deny any chuch the right to interpretate the supposed will of that God.

Religions are a business of earthly power and social control, they are the organized form of intolerance and discrimantion. And their fairy tales about revelations and interpretations of God's will are easily seen as wrong by any open adn intelligent mind. :down:

You are assuming souls are not individual personalities or if they are, they resemble the age and intellect of the body they are retained in in this world.

Judaism, at least, does not view souls as carbon-copies of each other nor as something that needs its diapers changed at age zero and its teeth replaced at age 99.

I suggest also reading Reincarnation, from a Jewish point of view, which relates to points you discussed.

Your reply and your link confirm my theory. :)

If the soul is independent and not carbon-copy of the body (What I said before is exactly that), then "WE" as we know us, will DISSAPPEAR after death, and a part of us that is not the same self-consciousness as we have right now is what would continue.

Thus, when we die we dissappear as we know us right now, and what is left of us will not be able to remember us as we are now, nor identify itself with it. So death is equal to dissapear for us, is similar to your heart being transplanted to another body after you die :88)

Scaring, sin't it? ;) A good reason to reject our right to freedom and dignity, and throw ourselves in the arms of any religion that, thanks to dogma, does not allow us to think and suffer the weight of such problems in our shoulders :know: