[BUG] Tonnage bar won't fill up (what mod)

THEBERBSTER · 10-29-15, 11:14 AM

Is it ok for Ubisoft to say it is a "low priority"?

Ubisoft are currently selling a game knowing that it does not work properly.

They have a legal obligation like any other seller who sells a product that it has to be "fit for purpose", and it is not.

Peter

MaMa · 10-29-15, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Is it ok for Ubisoft to say it is a "low priority"?

Ubisoft are currently selling a game knowing that it does not work properly.

They have a legal obligation like any other seller who sells a product that it has to be "fit for purpose", and it is not.

Peter

+1 !

vdr1981 · 10-29-15, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Is it ok for Ubisoft to say it is a "low priority"?

Ubisoft are currently selling a game knowing that it does not work properly.

They have a legal obligation like any other seller who sells a product that it has to be "fit for purpose", and it is not.

Peter

Ubisoft is bunch of unscrupulous guys who managed to kill every simulation related to this company. Dont expect official fix because that will probably never happen.
Most of deceived customers are not aware that there's SH5 version out there which is "tonnage bar bug" free, but something like that is not allowed to be discussed so I should better stay silent...

THEBERBSTER · 10-30-15, 05:37 AM

Hi Vecko

Like you, I do not expect Ubisoft to do anything about this even though I believe there is a legal and if not, a moral obligation to do so.

You would not buy a car with 3 wheels on it as you can see there is a wheel missing.

To the unsuspecting SH5 buyer they do not know they are buying a flawed game.
Unless the gamer can find Subsim quickly it will end up in the trash can.

Peter

gap · 10-30-15, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MaMa

Just a quick update on the situation...

Thank you very much MaMa, your contribution to track down the DRM/tonnage bar issue is very much appreciated here

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Originally Posted by MaMa

...And last : Ubisoft answered to my question about a possible timing for a solution of the problem. They aknowledged it but they told me that is a low priority issue due to the small number of queries received (i guess they are interested on making money with something else at the moment

)...

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Originally Posted by MaMa

thus i ask to everyone interested, forward a query to the UBI customer support hoping that it helps bringing some pressure on the issue.

I will.

Can you please provide us with the message you sent to Ubi hedquarter's technical support (the one in english), as well as their email adress/contact link and the customer name you used for getting in touch with them? I just want to make sure my query to fall into the right hands, and them to understand what I am talking about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Is it ok for Ubisoft to say it is a "low priority"?

Ubisoft are currently selling a game knowing that it does not work properly.

They have a legal obligation like any other seller who sells a product that it has to be "fit for purpose", and it is not.

Peter

Yes, they have two fair ways to deal with the issue: fixing it or admitting that SH5 is abandonware and stop making money with it.

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Originally Posted by vdr1981

Ubisoft is bunch of unscrupulous guys...

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Originally Posted by vdr1981

Dont expect official fix because that will probably never happen.

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Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Like you, I do not expect Ubisoft to do anything about this...

So do I, but as stated by Peter it's a matter of principle. I bought their game fully aware that it was full with bugs. I didn't expect Ubi to fix them, but I can't accept them to even add new ones to the collection. Are they serious?

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Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Most of deceived customers are not aware that there's SH5 version out there which is "tonnage bar bug" free, but something like that is not allowed to be discussed so I should better stay silent...

Well, until they release an official fix I am not afraid mentioning any SH5 anti-DRM crack (crack or fix?), as using it is the only way to bypass the problem and play a game I legitimately bought, without having to mod it heavily. I am aware your modifications to OH's campaign are a good alternative, but neither Trevally nor TWoS are on Ubisoft's pay roll so, if you ask me, if they decide not to deal with the problem they are liable of fraud.

MaMa · 10-31-15, 03:09 PM

So, i'm a little excited

... but... despite not being completely sure of that... at the moment it seems i've found a solution to the problem !!!!

Further testing needed but so far i made a 100% success rate over 5 trials... still testing but since i have no time during the next week to continue my tests i wish to share this with everyone, so if someone can try this procedure in the meantime and check if it works it would be of great help !!

So, here we go ! :

First of all, an information on the test made. Tried with the vanilla game with no MODS installed (version 1.20), therefore if someone could test it with configured MODS or something else enabled he would be more than welcome !

Firstly i recommend to have the DBGViewer enabled (it can be found in the TDW applications directory of TDW UI MOD) and make sure to have the OSI.exe file in the UPlay folder set to run with administrator rights.

Start the game and when it finishes loading go to desktop (Alt+TAB). Start the Windows Task Manager and go to the "process" list. You should have the OSI application in the list running.

Go to the OSI process and click with the RMB, select "priority" and click on "real time". The PC will tell you that it is not possible but it will set the priority to "high".

Go back to the game and start a new game or load an existing one. After the loading is completed wait 10 or 20 seconds then pause the game and with Alt+TAB go to the DBG viewer. Check if all the elements needed for the campagin updates are loaded (check my first post to see which ones are needed for the game to run correctly) and continue playing.

Check if everything is working correctly ! So far my games worked fine, with all objectives updated and the tonnage bar filling correctly...

As stated at the start of my post : i cannot confirm if it could be a solution to the problem since i made only few tests but i want to share this with all of you interested as to have some feedback ! It could be a hint for the right direction to follow for my future testing, thanks in advance for every possible incoming information !

Good luck and fingers crossed !

LCQ_SH · 11-01-15, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

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To the unsuspecting SH5 buyer they do not know they are buying a flawed game.
Unless the gamer can find Subsim quickly it will end up in the trash can.

Peter

hi Peter,

Mine did go to the "trash can" even knowing subsim existed. That was quite long ago. I came back to see if somehow the modders

in here would have figured out how this game could properly work.

Before I left SH5, many bugs were just giving me a hard time. Could you orient me what are the best modds I should get to have a playable campaing?

I know you have a link in your signature to a SH5 review, but that post was already there by time I quit. Just a little of orientation please!

Thanks!

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10-30-15, 05:37 AM	#4
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Hi Vecko Like you, I do not expect Ubisoft to do anything about this even though I believe there is a legal and if not, a moral obligation to do so. You would not buy a car with 3 wheels on it as you can see there is a wheel missing. To the unsuspecting SH5 buyer they do not know they are buying a flawed game. Unless the gamer can find Subsim quickly it will end up in the trash can. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

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10-31-15, 03:09 PM	#6
MaMa Bosun Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Italy Posts: 69 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	So, i'm a little excited ... but... despite not being completely sure of that... at the moment it seems i've found a solution to the problem !!!! Further testing needed but so far i made a 100% success rate over 5 trials... still testing but since i have no time during the next week to continue my tests i wish to share this with everyone, so if someone can try this procedure in the meantime and check if it works it would be of great help !! So, here we go ! : First of all, an information on the test made. Tried with the vanilla game with no MODS installed (version 1.20), therefore if someone could test it with configured MODS or something else enabled he would be more than welcome ! Firstly i recommend to have the DBGViewer enabled (it can be found in the TDW applications directory of TDW UI MOD) and make sure to have the OSI.exe file in the UPlay folder set to run with administrator rights. Start the game and when it finishes loading go to desktop (Alt+TAB). Start the Windows Task Manager and go to the "process" list. You should have the OSI application in the list running. Go to the OSI process and click with the RMB, select "priority" and click on "real time". The PC will tell you that it is not possible but it will set the priority to "high". Go back to the game and start a new game or load an existing one. After the loading is completed wait 10 or 20 seconds then pause the game and with Alt+TAB go to the DBG viewer. Check if all the elements needed for the campagin updates are loaded (check my first post to see which ones are needed for the game to run correctly) and continue playing. Check if everything is working correctly ! So far my games worked fine, with all objectives updated and the tonnage bar filling correctly... As stated at the start of my post : i cannot confirm if it could be a solution to the problem since i made only few tests but i want to share this with all of you interested as to have some feedback ! It could be a hint for the right direction to follow for my future testing, thanks in advance for every possible incoming information ! Good luck and fingers crossed !