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Electrician's Mate
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I don't know about real life but I know in the game I can very effectively use a passive torpedo, being that a subs first action when the fish start swimming is to go to flank... I've also been sunk by them a number of times because they don't give off pings to tell you their enabled and locked on you. The only way to evade them effectively is to either run for your life and hope it runs out of fuel first, or drop a decoy, sprint as far as you can before you think it will enable and go all stop and go quiet. If it's close enough and your in a nuke, it will hear you anyway. And Henrich I didn't think that passive torpedos worked off wake, I thought they tracked by sound like a passive sonar. If that was the case, I thought that they would have no problem picking up the screw sounds and cavitation noise that a torpedo usually makes, they are not quiet at all. And for the record, I'm not really trying to take out the torpedo with my torpedo, I'm just trying to get the enemy fish to pick up the noise of my fish, and maybe try to follow it instead of coming after my quiet sub. But if passive torpedos do work off of wakes, then I could see how that would be a problem
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Grey Wolf
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Yes, that is how they work. Their sonar packages in torpedoes look for cavitation and disturbances caused by turning screws. For surface ships, cavitation is a given and is usually quite strong, hence why passive homers work for ASUW. However, they are not great for subs because of the anti-cavitation designs, speed discipline and other factors. We easily see this in both the narroband and broadband sonar displays and the challenges of positive classification because of the aforementioned factors. The only time a passive homer is good against a sub is as a nasty follow-up to an active torpedo. When a sub turns and burns away from an active torpedo, the sub is going fast enough and most likely is cavitating enough to give the passive torpedo a good enough signal to acquire. That is also why veteran skipper drop both an active and a passive decoy to avoid the possibility of a passive torpedo following the active one.
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Well you learn something new everyday. And I know exactly what you mean, I've done that before.
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