Terrorist attack in Paris on French magazine

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

That's a cutting comment.
But really Tchocky, you are better than that, you shouldn't mock the afflicted.

I'm nowhere close to mocking, I'm ashamed to be on the same forum as this decrepit excuse for an opinionated blowhard.


People deserve physical violence and death for not hating the same thing as he does.

Death for speaking out after barbarism instead of before.

Death for not sharing his opinion.

I pity the mod who has to claw through that. That kind of thinking belongs on the ash heap.

[Tchocky]

I don't really want to further derail it, man.


Seems the young lady hostage taker survived the supermarket assault. I wonder what we'll find out from her.

[Oberon]

It's getting a little confusing, but then I've been locked away in a court room all day so I've been only able to scan the news from time to time on my phone on the way there and back. So, is this woman a friend of one of the guys who shot up the magazine building, and the other two guys at the warehouse are the remainder of the three original attackers?

Either which way, a very professional response to the situation by the French police, they were very quick to close down the scenes, I recall one eyewitness saying that within five minutes of shots being fired the police had helicopters in the area.

So good work to the police, a job well done, would have been better to have got them alive and oubliette them, but the longer it went on the more likely that more people would have been killed, so it just wasn't plausible.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I've been locked away in a court room all day

Finally!

Originally Posted by Oberon

So, is this woman a friend of one of the guys who shot up the magazine building, and the other two guys at the warehouse are the remainder of the three original attackers?

The reports are still a bit uncertain, whether there were 2 or one attackers in the supermarket - the girl said to be the fiancée of the perp shot in Paris. She is on the run now.
The third guy wanted in connection with Charlie Hebro apparently has an alibi for the time of the attack, it is said that one of the Hebro killers was his bro-in-law.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

The following article is, unfortunately, in German, but those interested may try Google translate.
It is about the ongoing hypocrisy with the "Je suis Charlie!" banners, made and held up by the press who dare to talk about freedom of speech/opinion/expression.

"You are not Charlie!"

I see your right-wing opinion piece and raise you yesterday's comment by Yücel from the Taz.

Here's a link to the Google translation for the barbarians who don't understand German as I'm too lazy to translate it.

Some additions for the non-Germans:
First paragraph's last sentence: "These people are a few left-liberal cartoonists ****" means they are crap to them.
Pegida is an anti-Islam(ization) movement, AfD is a Euro-sceptical party, NPD a Nazi party.

Second paragraph: "Titanic" and "Postillion" are satire mags - "nüscht" is Berlin slang for nothing.

The rest should hopefully be understandable.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Penguin

Here's a link to the Google translation for the barbarians who don't understand German as I'm too lazy to translate it.

WTH? I'm a Barbarian for not reading German?


I wanted to learn German in High School but all they offered was French or Spanish.

[Rockstar]

[Schroeder]

@Penguin

Awesome stuff. That is exactly what I'm thinking and it's good to hear it from a guy who is of Turkish decent.
Not all Muslims are evil but there is a need for Islam to look at itself and do something about radicals.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

WTH? I'm a Barbarian for not reading German?


I wanted to learn German in High School but all they offered was French or Spanish.

Don't worry, you guys can still become our vassals once Paukenschlag 2.0 works out.

I don't think you missed much. I have a friend who had 2 years of German in HS, when she came to Germany she noticed we speak totally different here - after a year here, she learned it - good ole practice vs theory !

[Jeff-Groves]

Well. To be honest? Being called a barbarian is probably the best thing I was called all day!

When Monday rolls around and the Wife gets home?
It will get worse!

[Catfish]

Thanks Penguin, good article.

And thanks to Neal, good Subsim Logo

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

@Penguin

Awesome stuff. That is exactly what I'm thinking and it's good to hear it from a guy who is of Turkish decent.
Not all Muslims are evil but there is a need for Islam to look at itself and do something about radicals.

I forget to mention, he also pretty much reflected my opinion - I especially like his "no freaking buts" attitude. I noticed this guy for the first time during the Gaza operation last summer, where he was one of most levbel-headed commentators.

The biggest question to us here is how prevalent those voices are among the people with a muslim background. I can only tell anectdotical evidence, but more than once my chin dropped when talking with immigrants about "Abschiebung". Basically I noticed they have a very strong opinion how their criminal countrymen should be deported, for the reason how those bad seeds reflect on their whole community.

[danasan]

[QUOTE=Jeff-Groves;2276414]
WTH? I'm a Barbarian for not reading German?


- SNIP - \QUOTE

It could have been worse. Think of those Barbarians who actually CAN read German...



Fill in your favourite ehmmm ... whatever...

@ Penguin:

You are doing a good job here again , IIRC, you are a journalist?

EDIT: PLEASE note, I really do mean those chickens and all the German - Reading Barbarian Birds here around...

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Armistead

With these dirtbags today, you may as well fight from the start, rather than let them get any control over you for torture and death anyway...

I suspect this is the beginning. I can see a future where these acts keep major cities in crisis for a long time to go....massive closings, highways shutdown, etc....

But still we want to appease Islam.....It's just we know moderates in most places aren't moderates....

Exactly. The appeasers, PC crowd who refuse to see and tell the truth about Islam are just as if not more dangerous than the "radical" muslims themselves.Bill Maher is one liberal who tells the truth about Islam.France is suffering the end result of mindless unchecked immigration from the muslim world, chickens are coming home to roost so to speak. Really is sad, beautiful country(I visited this past summer) and people overall.

The US has suffered but will suffer even more if we do not take a real and strong stance soon. Just a quote I saw somewhere "A radical muslim wants to cut your head off.A "moderate muslim" wants to watch the radical muslim cut your head off."

BTW, to curb the faux outrage from the usual suspects, I am not saying all followers of Islam are terrorists or support such barbaric attacks as those in Paris recently.However, there is a large percentage who conduct the violence and perpetuate the violence and an even larger percentage who hide under the cloak of the "moderate" label yet tacitly support the radicals who carry out the attacks.

This also speaks to the big picture.The clash of civilizations, we simply can not coexist.Western values and Islamic values just do not mesh, never have and never will.One is modern and has improved the human condition for the most part, values liberty and individual freedom(not as much as once did but a different argument) while the other is stuck in the dark ages.Unfortunately that means over a billion people are stuck in the dark ages, well most of them.Some on here will try to say that's not true blah blah, just look at facts and the history, ignore them you will, I am sure but honestly.The Paris attack should be a wake up call for EVERYONE.

What is the answer? Well certainly not something like a massive war to try and wipe it out, that is just as barbaric and perpetuating the cycle of violence.Outlawing the religion in our lands? No, that is against out values and violates our rights.What should be done?

Honestly, it's complicated and will not pretend to know the answer.One thing is not check our tolerance, make sure we are not so tolerant and our leaders, culture, media etc does not appease these enemies of humanity/I nearly puked when of course on MSNBC, not long after news of the attacks broke, some loon on there was faulting "Islamophobia" in France as the cause of the attacks.People like this are part of the problem and just as dangerous as the enemy.SMH

Nice to be back, been too long since I have signed in here lol.

[Jeff-Groves]

IIRC, you are a journalist?

Hold on!
I thought media people were the bad guys?
Did I miss something?