Gunman takes hostages in Sydney

Oberon · 12-15-14, 10:03 PM

It sure helped in Pennsylvania today.

Oberon · 12-15-14, 10:07 PM

Anyway, this has got nothing to do with gun control, and to be honest I think it's pretty disrespectful to those who have died here today to try and wedge some kind of political diatribe into it.

eddie · 12-15-14, 10:12 PM

TorpX · 12-15-14, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Anyway, this has got nothing to do with gun control, and to be honest I think it's pretty disrespectful to those who have died here today to try and wedge some kind of political diatribe into it.

Of course, if it is a anti-American, or gun control "political diatribe", that's completely different.

Jeff-Groves · 12-15-14, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Anyway, this has got nothing to do with gun control, and to be honest I think it's pretty disrespectful to those who have died here today to try and wedge some kind of political diatribe into it.

And here all along I thought the British were masters at off brand humor.
Thank You for correcting that mistaken thought.
I hoped you ducked at the irony of several old threads as relate to this.
Then again? You probably cringe at some of Monty Pythons work.
Simple minds and such.
To each his own I say.

Oh. And please feel free to report my posts if they offend you and your safe little world.
I travel, work, and live in some of the worst places in the U.S.A. you can be thankful you will never see.

Oberon · 12-15-14, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

And here all along I thought the British were masters at off brand humor.
Thank You for correcting that mistaken thought.
I hoped you ducked at the irony of several old threads as relate to this.
Then again? You probably cringe at some of Monty Pythons work.
Simple minds and such.
To each his own I say.

Oh. And please feel free to report my posts if they offend you and your safe little world.
I travel, work, and live in some of the worst places in the U.S.A. you can be thankful you will never see.

I give up with this place, I really do. Whatever happened to tact? And respect for other people? When the Boston bomber did his thing, did we start making jokes about the US?
I mean, seriously, two people have died today and all you guys can talk about is gun control, sitting there gloating because you think that gun control is the ultimate answer?
Quite sickening if I'm honest.
I don't care if you think I'm from some fluffy world, I don't really care what parts of the US have been seen or not seen, I just thought, for one deluded stupid minute that this forum was meant to be run with some decorum and respect. Stupid me.
What a ****ing joke.

Jeff-Groves · 12-15-14, 10:48 PM

An now may you understand why I gave up the privateer account.
We, and I mean you and I and others can not make a comment that is not distorted no matter how hard we try to phrase it for proper reading.
You think I like that people died?
Am I serious about goading some that made big issues about Laws that should be passed in MY Country? (Well, that one Yes)
I really enjoyed your point of view on alot of things but if your gonna tap out?
I'm probably not far behind you.
(You didn't answer me about Monty Python!)

Cybermat47 · 12-15-14, 10:53 PM

Okay, never mind my last post (easy to do, I just deleted it). I think everyone's just gone slightly crazy from all the disgusting **** that's been going on. And it is the end of the year.

Let's just take a deep breath, and get away from our computers for a bit.

Let's focus on what we have in common, rather than our differences.

Stealhead · 12-15-14, 11:01 PM

This seems fitting in some strange way.

Oberon · 12-15-14, 10:59 PM

For what it's worth, and this is rather off-topic, but when it's come to the whole gun control thing I've always tried to understand both sides of the story. I'm neither pro- or anti- when it comes to American gun control laws. It is, after all, a purely American situation and nothing that I say or do will influence the US congress. I have expressed viewpoints on the situation, and heard viewpoints in return and I'm not about to turn around and say to Americans "You shouldn't have guns", if I would say anything it would be "I guess you have to accept the risks that come with guns, such as police that are armed like the military and schools that look like prisons"
Again, this is all off-topic.

Now, Jeff...if I have misread your intentions (and I'm starting to realise that I think I have), then I apologise, but when I come into a thread like this and the fifth comment is a rather gloating "Good thing they have all that gun control", then honestly I get rather annoyed at the insensitivity of the people involved.
Compare and contrast with the responses to the Boston bombings:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=203749

Sure, we got into the old Yubba/Bubblehead game, but the tone was much more respectful from the non-Americans to the Americans. Why was the same respect not returned in this instance?

That's really the thing that grinds me gears in this instance. But...I seem to be expecting too much from some people these days. I don't know about tapping out, God knows I've come damn close over the past few months but I know too many good people here to do that, so I guess you're stuck with me.

Oh, and in regards to Monty Python, well...that's something completely different.

Jeff-Groves · 12-15-14, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

My god, do you people have any respect at all? Two people were killed, but you don't even care about that. You just want to lord it over us, because we have gun control. Guess what? The Prime Minister who put that law into effect has been retired for years, nearly a decade. A lot of people I know in this country are against gun control. So shut up, you're preaching to the converted.

Act like adults. Show respect to the people who have died. Show respect to the families that have been torn apart. Show respect to the people who are still in shock from their ordeal.

3 people died in Sidney. Guess what? Chicago hasn't reported in for the daily kill.
An hour south of me? Probably 3 or 4 deaths.
Am I a bit hardened to it all? I have to be. It's where I live. Not some place on TV News but where I dwell.
I don't live in a wishful world where everything is rosy and Daddy takes care of me.
I work amoungst heroin and meth addicts that will just as soon stab me for a buck as ask for a handout.
Act like an adult? Ya. I do that. I insure I come home alive and my home is protected, bills are payed, and I put fear into anyone local that threatens my abode.

I jumped out of AirCraft and completed my assigned missions to preserve my rights.
If that offends you? There's a project that is looking for Sesame Street.

DANG IT! Now you make me look like a Richard by your deleteing your post! Oh! Wait I am!

Jeff-Groves · 12-15-14, 11:33 PM

General Topics?

Oberon · 12-15-14, 11:37 PM

Alrighty, let's just all step back for a bit here.
We've all said things in the heat of things in this thread, we've gotten things off our chests and let's just step back and calm down for a bit.
I understand how the Aussies must be feeling, I felt the same way in the weeks after 7/7. Sure, more people may die in one week in Chicago, but it doesn't make the news in the way that this did, internationally, because it doesn't have the magic trigger word 'Muslim' in it.

This isn't a thread about gun control, this isn't a thread about dark humour, it's a thread about Tori Johnson and Katrina Dawson, and all those who survived being taken hostage by a madman for seventeen hours. If people want to open up a thread to discuss the average week in inner Chicago or Detroit then that's fair enough, but otherwise, honestly, it has no real place in this thread.

So let's just put our keyboards down, and move on.

Cybermat47 · 12-15-14, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

3 people died in Sidney. Guess what? Chicago hasn't reported in for the daily kill.
An hour south of me? Probably 3 or 4 deaths.
Am I a bit hardened to it all? I have to be. It's where I live. Not some place on TV News but where I dwell.
I don't live in a wishful world where everything is rosy and Daddy takes care of me.
I work amoungst heroin and meth addicts that will just as soon stab me for a buck as ask for a handout.
Act like an adult? Ya. I do that. I insure I come home alive and my home is protected, bills are payed, and I put fear into anyone local that threatens my abode.

I jumped out of AirCraft and completed my assigned missions to preserve my rights.
If that offends you? There's a project that is looking for Sesame Street.

Well... that puts things into perspective

Quote:

DANG IT! Now you make me look like a Richard by your deleteing your post! Oh! Wait I am!

Nevermind, that post was stupid anyway, can hardly complain about you calling stupidity out

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

So let's just put our keyboards down, and move on.

I'm on a tablet

Cybermat47 · 12-16-14, 12:11 AM

On the bright side, I think we can all agree that Rupert Murdoch is a bastard.

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2014/...outcome-gaffe/

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Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	Okay, never mind my last post (easy to do, I just deleted it). I think everyone's just gone slightly crazy from all the disgusting ** that's been going on. And it is the end of the year. Let's just take a deep breath, and get away from our computers for a bit. Let's focus on what we have in common, rather than our differences. __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394** Last edited by Cybermat47; 12-15-14 at 11:04 PM.

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Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	On the bright side, I think we can all agree that Rupert Murdoch is a bastard. http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2014/...outcome-gaffe/ __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

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12-15-14, 10:03 PM	#1
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It sure helped in Pennsylvania today.

12-15-14, 10:07 PM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Anyway, this has got nothing to do with gun control, and to be honest I think it's pretty disrespectful to those who have died here today to try and wedge some kind of political diatribe into it.

12-15-14, 10:48 PM	#7
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,663 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	An now may you understand why I gave up the privateer account. We, and I mean you and I and others can not make a comment that is not distorted no matter how hard we try to phrase it for proper reading. You think I like that people died? Am I serious about goading some that made big issues about Laws that should be passed in MY Country? (Well, that one Yes) I really enjoyed your point of view on alot of things but if your gonna tap out? I'm probably not far behind you. (You didn't answer me about Monty Python!)

12-15-14, 11:01 PM	#9
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	This seems fitting in some strange way.

12-15-14, 10:59 PM	#10
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	For what it's worth, and this is rather off-topic, but when it's come to the whole gun control thing I've always tried to understand both sides of the story. I'm neither pro- or anti- when it comes to American gun control laws. It is, after all, a purely American situation and nothing that I say or do will influence the US congress. I have expressed viewpoints on the situation, and heard viewpoints in return and I'm not about to turn around and say to Americans "You shouldn't have guns", if I would say anything it would be "I guess you have to accept the risks that come with guns, such as police that are armed like the military and schools that look like prisons" Again, this is all off-topic. Now, Jeff...if I have misread your intentions (and I'm starting to realise that I think I have), then I apologise, but when I come into a thread like this and the fifth comment is a rather gloating "Good thing they have all that gun control", then honestly I get rather annoyed at the insensitivity of the people involved. Compare and contrast with the responses to the Boston bombings: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=203749 Sure, we got into the old Yubba/Bubblehead game, but the tone was much more respectful from the non-Americans to the Americans. Why was the same respect not returned in this instance? That's really the thing that grinds me gears in this instance. But...I seem to be expecting too much from some people these days. I don't know about tapping out, God knows I've come damn close over the past few months but I know too many good people here to do that, so I guess you're stuck with me. Oh, and in regards to Monty Python, well...that's something completely different.

12-15-14, 11:33 PM	#12
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,663 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	General Topics?

12-15-14, 11:37 PM	#13
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Alrighty, let's just all step back for a bit here. We've all said things in the heat of things in this thread, we've gotten things off our chests and let's just step back and calm down for a bit. I understand how the Aussies must be feeling, I felt the same way in the weeks after 7/7. Sure, more people may die in one week in Chicago, but it doesn't make the news in the way that this did, internationally, because it doesn't have the magic trigger word 'Muslim' in it. This isn't a thread about gun control, this isn't a thread about dark humour, it's a thread about Tori Johnson and Katrina Dawson, and all those who survived being taken hostage by a madman for seventeen hours. If people want to open up a thread to discuss the average week in inner Chicago or Detroit then that's fair enough, but otherwise, honestly, it has no real place in this thread. So let's just put our keyboards down, and move on.