New Alan Turing Film

[vienna]

Good or bad news and reviews, Jim? BTW, Cumberbatch just last week won the Best Actor Aware at the "Hollywood Film Awards" the first awards ceremony of the so-called "awards season" here in Hollywood, culminating in the Oscar Awards...


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[Eichhörnchen]

Benedict Cucumberpatch was always bound to get this part, but at the same time, I'm sure he was the best choice anyway.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by vienna

Good or bad news and reviews, Jim? BTW, Cumberbatch just last week won the Best Actor Aware at the "Hollywood Film Awards" the first awards ceremony of the so-called "awards season" here in Hollywood, culminating in the Oscar Awards...


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Good atm, it starts with his brief engagement to Joan Clarke and goes onward showing how they worked together.

[Otto Harkaman]

Oh Keira Knightley is in it!

I do have Codebreaker downloaded that I need to watch. I've been listening to a great audiobook by David Kahn "Seizing the Enigma" that I need to finish, amazing stuff. I just watched the old British movie "Sink the Bismarck!" I do think Bletchley Park had a big part in finding the ship.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

Oh Keira Knightley is in it!

I do have Codebreaker downloaded that I need to watch. I've been listening to a great audiobook by David Kahn "Seizing the Enigma" that I need to finish, amazing stuff. I just watched the old British movie "Sink the Bismarck!" I do think Bletchley Park had a big part in finding the ship.

Not sure what Bletchley's role would have been because Bismarck was sighted by a Catalina and shadowed by a further one until the Sheffield could take up a surface shadowing position.

A British Catalina aircraft of No. 209 Squadron, piloted by US Navy observer Ensign Leonard B. Smith, USNR (US Naval Reserve), spotted Bismarck at a range of about eight miles. While Ensign Smith flew the aircraft and evaded accurate German antiaircraft fire, his British copilot radioed a report of the enemy warship's location.

Upon acknowledging the contact report, cruiser Sheffield was detached from Force H and ordered to find and shadow the enemy. Later that day, naval observer Lieutenant James E. Johnson in a British Catalina from No. 240 Squadron, relieved Smith's plane and maintained contact with the German battleship until Sheffield took up a shadowing position.

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq118-1.htm

[Otto Harkaman]

^ Its just a hunch I have at the moment. I'll have to gather evidence. However I believe that the Catalina was able to find the Bismarck because of Bletchley Park.

This I can't confirm, its from the Avalon Hill Bismarck rules I am reading "The Bismarck was able to shake off her pursuers and was racing undetected to France when an unfortunate radio message was issued by Lutjens to Germany, detailing the victory the previous morning. The British were able to locate the source of the signal and the chase was on again."

The thing about ULTRA was they always had to have some other way to confirm the information so that it wasn't suspected that they were reading the Enigma codes. Having a plane or some other way for the enemy to explain the information was important.

All just a hunch on my part at the moment till I find something definite.

[CCIP]

I'm pretty sure that was a case of just ordinary DF intercept rather than Bletchley Park. The radio transmission in question was, among other things, exceptionally long (some sources I read state that the transmission lasted a full 30 minutes).

The decoding of messages was far from instantaneous and I believe at that point in the war it took an average of 30 hours for a message to be decoded. Strategically, ULTRA was extremely important but operationally it was not of much use - a ship can be practically anywhere 30 hours later. On the other hand, DF intercepts were fairly reliable, provided the contact could be sighted and shadowed after the transmission.

[Catfish]

Interesting, and i will for sure watch it.
I think though that Turing's role will be overdone by Cumberbatch, as far as i read Alan T. was not very self assured, let alone boasting about his mathematical capabilities.

Also as far as i read, the 'bomb' and the other machine constructed, were not able to instantly decypher the messages. Still took one - two days. Important for the war effort, but not enough to divert a convoy instantly, after some boat breaking radio silence with the Tabu.

And a tête-à-tête with Mrs Clarke ? Hmm.

Looking forward to it anyyway

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by CCIP

I'm pretty sure that was a case of just ordinary DF intercept rather than Bletchley Park. The radio transmission in question was, among other things, exceptionally long (some sources I read state that the transmission lasted a full 30 minutes).

The decoding of messages was far from instantaneous and I believe at that point in the war it took an average of 30 hours for a message to be decoded. Strategically, ULTRA was extremely important but operationally it was not of much use - a ship can be practically anywhere 30 hours later. On the other hand, DF intercepts were fairly reliable, provided the contact could be sighted and shadowed after the transmission.

Exceptional detail/reasoning and how my memory remembers the events of the day