SOS! Fustration mounting!

[relfin]

When you say that it "crashed to a black screen" do you mean that the pc turned itself off/rebooted? If so, it could be an overheating of the processor that is turning off the pc. Download a free CPU temp check program.

You could try opening up your case and blowing a fan on your parts.

Good Luck

I also see that you reused the cpu from your old motherboard. You want to make sure that you use some new thermal compound between your CPU and heatsink. Make sure you blow all the dust out of all of your fans and off of the heatsink fins.

I have personally had an overheating problem myself which resulted in my pc shutting down. I was able to fix the problem with the suggestions above.

[Warren Peace]

Two things I would suggest trying, which are unrelated to Windows but could be the cause:

1) Update your bios, MSI 970 series boards are notoriously unreliable.
2) If possible, go into your bios and turn off the Overclock Genie. It's entirely possible that your MOBO is attempting to OC your processor and RAM, failing miserably, and causing too much power drain, resulting in the VRM overheating and locking up the system.

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by relfin

When you say that it "crashed to a black screen" do you mean that the pc turned itself off/rebooted? If so, it could be an overheating of the processor that is turning off the pc. Download a free CPU temp check program. It did crash to a black screen but didn't turn itself completely off. I still had a power light but had to reboot to get computer to function.

You could try opening up your case and blowing a fan on your parts.
The side panel is already off and four fans are moving air.

Good Luck

I also see that you reused the cpu from your old motherboard. You want to make sure that you use some new thermal compound between your CPU and heatsink. Make sure you blow all the dust out of all of your fans and off of the heatsink fins. That's the first thing I did was to ensure a new layer of thermal compound went down before I put on the heat sink and then blew compressed air everywhere to get rid of all dust.

I have personally had an overheating problem myself which resulted in my pc shutting down. I was able to fix the problem with the suggestions above.

I got it to work (sort of) but after about five minutes the frame rate takes a crash dive and the video just starts stuttering. I have since reinstalled Win7 and the game (including patch) again and are going to give it another go in a bit. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[Aktungbby]

Relfin!

[Sinkmore]

Maybe try running it on the inboard graphics? (Sacrilege!)

If that works, a) you can play, and b) it'll narrow down the problem.

I am without a video card at the moment, and SH4 looks and runs great in Intel HD4400 graphics. {edit - HD4600 i think?}

[Jimbuna]

Welcome to SubSim relfin

[relfin]

Hi DvlHownd

Have you been able to run any other resource intense games on your pc? First you need to figure out if you can duplicate the problem without running SH4.

Do you have any errors in your event logs?

Could it be a power supply problem? Did you install a new power supply with enough wattage?

Test pc with onboard video only.

Do you have a RAM problem? Test RAM with memtest86.
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What parts did you use from your old pc?


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Hi Everyone,

Happy to be a new Bilge Rat.

[THEBERBSTER]

A warm welcome “relfin“ to the Subsim family.

You will always find someone here to help you.

Link to my SH5 post:

STEP BY STEP TUTORIALS & HOW TO DO IT

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=211804

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by relfin

Hi DvlHownd

Have you been able to run any other resource intense games on your pc? First you need to figure out if you can duplicate the problem without running SH4. Runs CFS2 and Call of Duty fine.

Do you have any errors in your event logs? I found WMI and NvStreamSvc errors.

Could it be a power supply problem? Did you install a new power supply with enough wattage? Used same power supply of 500 watts.

Test pc with onboard video only. Can't - no on-board video with this motherboard. Stuck with PCIe GeForce 520.

Do you have a RAM problem? Test RAM with memtest86. I'll give that a try but shouldn't be an issue. 2 Brand new PNY 8GB DDR3 16MHz sticks.
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What parts did you use from your old pc? Chassis, 500W Power supply, CPU, and Fan(s). New 1TD HD for clean Win7 install, MB, and CD/DVD.


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Hi Everyone,

Happy to be a new Bilge Rat.

I sure appreciate all the help everybody is sending my way. Unfortunately, it is all to no avail at this time. I'm still getting the same symptoms. Maybe it's a good excuse to get a new video card just for grins.

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by Sinkmore

Maybe try running it on the inboard graphics? (Sacrilege!)

If that works, a) you can play, and b) it'll narrow down the problem.

I am without a video card at the moment, and SH4 looks and runs great in Intel HD4400 graphics. {edit - HD4600 i think?}

There is no on-board video with this board. Running a PCIe card w/GeForce 520 which worked fine with old board.

[Mikemike47]

Originally Posted by relfin

Download a free CPU temp check program.

You could try opening up your case and blowing a fan on your parts.
Please ground yourself to power supply to dissipate any static charge from you or your vacuum cleaner/blower/air in a can first!!!! Remove your CPU fan, not the CPU, dust always accumulates on the the heatsinks there.

Speccy is a overall computer temp check program.

[Sinkmore]

I suppose you've tried reinstalling the game?

Have you tried deleting the SH4 folder (user settings, saved games) that SH4 creates in your users/documents directory? It worked once for me. Delete it, and SH4 will create another. Might be better to delete it and do a fresh SH4 install.

[DvlHownd]

Originally Posted by Sinkmore

I suppose you've tried reinstalling the game? Oh, about 8 times now. Do the uninstall, delete folders, do a drive search to delete remaining/hidden folders, search HD for any remaining reference, reg clean, regedit to search and delete ubisoft/silent hunter/silent/hunter/sh4.

Have you tried deleting the SH4 folder (user settings, saved games) that SH4 creates in your users/documents directory? It worked once for me. Delete it, and SH4 will create another. Might be better to delete it and do a fresh SH4 install.

I haven't saved any missions yet. I can't get that far. I just start a quick mission and try and get past four minutes before it crashes the computer.

I'll just keep trying. The answer is in here somewhere. I'll stumble across it sooner or later.

[Sinkmore]

[QUOTE=DvlHownd;2206949]I haven't saved any missions yet.

Not just saved missions - various settings, that CAN include incompatible data, can cause CTD. I suggest deleting it. It solved my problem once, unrelated to saved games.

I doubt it's a physical hardware problem - it seldom is.

Bit late to ask, but: Have you tried the (paraphrased) "Playing SH4 on Win 7" thread?

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by DvlHownd

I did the dreaded “upgrade” to Windows 7 Pro 64Bit after years of running SH4 1.4 with various mods with Windows XP.

Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
New 1TB hard drive
16GB of RAM
AMD Phenon II X3 710 2.6-GHz Processor (retread from last motherboard)
GeForce 520
MSI 970A-G46/970S-G46 motherboard
LG Monitor 1920 x 1080 60HZ (recommended)

.........So now thinking I could try to take advantage of more RAM, I try the CCF explorer program to let the SHE.exe file handle >2GB address space. Change the settings and nope, five minutes later; *BLACK SCREEN*- BRRRRRRRRRRRR- crash to black screen ............

I've read your thread, and without looking up all the specifics about your new computer (although you don't have the specific type of ram used....clock speed, etc.) I'm guessing you've matched up all component's as specified by the mother board and CPU? I read where some are new......some are left-over from your older computer. I've got to say, you have to be really careful in mixing/matching parts. As long as you did your homework, and you're satisfied you have a good match......I've got one more suggestion.

Try the Large Address Aware program for having the game use the additional memory you have installed. I know, you said you tried the CCF Explorer, but try THIS program to have the games "sh4.exe" file open up to the additional memory. There could be a difference.

Also, make sure you right click on the "sh4.exe" file (the one with the sub....there are two files with the same sub icon......one is the .exe file, the other is just an icon file). Open the "Properties" tab and remove the possible check mark on the "Attributes:" section under the "Read Only" heading.



Your sh4.exe "General" tab page should look similar to the above....except for the "Dates".

I've never used CCF, but I HAVE used the LAA for a Windows 7 OS with more memory than what some of the older games thought would ever be advailable (like SH4). The Sid Meier's game "Railroads" crashed every time after about 10-15 minutes of play. After using LAA with the .exe of "Railroads"......no more crashes!