Why Mexicans immigrate to the US

[Phyrrus]

Why Mexicans immigrate to the US?
The problem is very complicated, but i like always finding easy solutions, so my answer is:
Because you let them in, simple as that. Put a big machine gun on your southern border and problem solved. (and I think you have a few of those). But would you do that, when half of your economy depends on immigrant workforce? If you do not dare to put that machine gun there, than swallow it and stop moaning.
You make war in Irak, and cant deal with immigration?

This is my answer to all similar questions: Why Europe is full of muslims, why Germany is invaded by turks, why England is not white anymore, why even my county, Romania is full of ethiopians, chinese and all. Some may say that multiculturalism is nice, but take a walk in London or Berlin, and your opinion will certainly change... There are always multiple points of views, and the final result is always who has more power to implement his own point of view. Humanity has nothing to do with it. I may seem to some as a racist, but not.. I am an immigrant myself, i left my country and lived and worked every possible country where payment was higher than in the s***hole I was born in. I did the low wage s*** work that native people wouldnt touch... but still, after eating the emmigrant`s bread myself, I still can not understand WHY do you people in Britain and USA can not take up arms and PROTECT yourselves agains all the crap that invades your countries? Because first you would have to hang all your inbred governors and bankers that get rich on immigrants backs, that`s why.

[Dread Knot]

Originally Posted by Phyrrus

You make war in Irak, and cant deal with immigration?

They seem to go hand in hand. It was immigrants, illegal and legal who did a good share of the fighting. 1.2 million Hispanics and Latinos are veterans of the US armed forces. They currently make up about 14% of the US Marine Corps.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Dread Knot

They seem to go hand in hand. It was immigrants, illegal and legal who did a good share of the fighting. 1.2 million Hispanics and Latinos are veterans of the US armed forces. They currently make up about 14% of the US Marine Corps.

True(partly) but they must either be legal citizens or possess a green card to serve any person regardless of origin.After the Dream Act some are pushing to allow illegals to enlist but currently being an illegal immigrant is a no go for enlisting.

Not a thing to me a legal immigrant serving I knew several Croatians and a few Filipinos all of the Hispanics I knew where already citizens.

I rather dislike the idea of an illegal being allowed to enlist.If a legal citizen gets kicked out for falsifying information in order to enlist how rightly can an illegal who violated the law be permitted that is highly contradictory.

I also believe that many in the military those with green cards in particular would be very displeased if illegals where allowed in and where eventually given legal status.In an all volunteer force you want to avoid polices that cause members to choose not to reenlist and others to not consider enlisting at all.A person in the military holding a green card may have to serve for a decade or more before being naturalized(depending on how long they had a green card prior to enlisting).


So there are 1.2 million Hispanic vets that are either citizens (some of them prior to enlisting and most born in the US nullifying them from this topic) or legal residents.

Originally Posted by Phyrrus

Why Mexicans immigrate to the US?
The problem is very complicated, but i like always finding easy solutions, so my answer is:
Because you let them in, simple as that. Put a big machine gun on your southern border and problem solved. (and I think you have a few of those). But would you do that, when half of your economy depends on immigrant workforce? If you do not dare to put that machine gun there, than swallow it and stop moaning.
You make war in Irak, and cant deal with immigration?

This is my answer to all similar questions: Why Europe is full of muslims, why Germany is invaded by turks, why England is not white anymore, why even my county, Romania is full of ethiopians, chinese and all. Some may say that multiculturalism is nice, but take a walk in London or Berlin, and your opinion will certainly change... There are always multiple points of views, and the final result is always who has more power to implement his own point of view. Humanity has nothing to do with it. I may seem to some as a racist, but not.. I am an immigrant myself, i left my country and lived and worked every possible country where payment was higher than in the s***hole I was born in. I did the low wage s*** work that native people wouldnt touch... but still, after eating the emmigrant`s bread myself, I still can not understand WHY do you people in Britain and USA can not take up arms and PROTECT yourselves agains all the crap that invades your countries? Because first you would have to hang all your inbred governors and bankers that get rich on immigrants backs, that`s why.

That is quite funny, as apparently the "you people in Britain" currently have yourself and the Bulgarians as top of the list on nationalities of "invaders" to be got rid of.

[u crank]

We got a couple of threads going on the immigration problem. This goes a long way in helping to understand some of it.



In the end it's all about that stuff you fold and put in your pocket.

[Phyrrus]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

That is quite funny, as apparently the "you people in Britain" currently have yourself and the Bulgarians as top of the list on nationalities of "invaders" to be got rid of.

Indeed, I count myself among them too. I lived among british, native brits are my friends, working class common folks, like me. I understand their bitterness, and I feel their pain, I have the same sourness in my mouth, and I want them to sort the immigration problem, even if that means myself being banished from GB.
What you dont know, that I went there to WORK, work hard and earn a living. But most of romanians (they are in fact lazy bastard gipsies) do NOT go there for work, they just want the social security, the go there to beg on the streets and rob and steal and get social security money, then come home and have a BMW X5 with the money they stole in England. I know because I see them both here and there.

About us being top of the list, I dunno, check some statistics, east europeeans are only a small percent of all your foreigners, compared to pakistaneese or chineese or arabs or god knows who else. Get to your senses, east europeeans are NOT europe's biggest problem. At least WE are europeeans. Some of us...

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Phyrrus

Some may say that multiculturalism is nice, but take a walk in London or Berlin, and your opinion will certainly change...

Never been to Berlin, but I go to London every year and my opinion hasn't changed. It's not whether multiculturalism is nice or nasty, it's a fact of life, London has been a centre of cultures from across the world since the 1700s, it would not be London if it was not multicultural.

Originally Posted by Oberon

Never been to Berlin, but I go to London every year and my opinion hasn't changed. It's not whether multiculturalism is nice or nasty, it's a fact of life, London has been a centre of cultures from across the world since the 1700s, it would not be London if it was not multicultural.

Go back another 2 centuries and you get queen Elizabeth complaining that there are too many Blacks in London.
Nothing changes, people still make the same complaints and the same doomsday predictions about the destruction of local culture

[Wolferz]

We all know why our neighbors to the south want to come here. Same as any other immigrant. Looking for a piece of the American dream. Better opportunities, living conditions etcetera, etcetera. They can work a job knowing that a band of banditos isn't going to rob them on the way home from work. I guess they forgot about our own banditos in DC and the state houses who rob you before you even get your check.

One thing's for sure, we're all sleeping. That's the only way to get the American dream. Then you awaken to the nightmare.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

We all know why our neighbors to the south want to come here. Same as any other immigrant. Looking for a piece of the American dream. Better opportunities, living conditions etcetera, etcetera. They can work a job knowing that a band of banditos isn't going to rob them on the way home from work. I guess they forgot about our own banditos in DC and the state houses who rob you before you even get your check.

One thing's for sure, we're all sleeping. That's the only way to get the American dream. Then you awaken to the nightmare.

Good post.

[Phyrrus]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Never been to Berlin, but I go to London every year and my opinion hasn't changed. It's not whether multiculturalism is nice or nasty, it's a fact of life, London has been a centre of cultures from across the world since the 1700s, it would not be London if it was not multicultural.

My friend Oberon, I've been in covenience stores in LONDON (the capital of UK you know) in which NONE of the pakistanese (sorry, PAKISTANI, thanks for the heads up, Stealhead) employees COULD NOT SPEAK ENGLISH, but tried to charge me 15 quids for a pack of Golden Virginia tobacco back in 2008. I can give you the adress of the store, it is in Borehamwood.
This is just an example. There are thousand small bits like these that make english people feel inconfortable in their own homeland. Even my immigrant blood boiled seeing those lazy good-for-nothing people in the hearts of England.
Of course, I am aware that THIS is the direct result of UK explointing India in the past centuries, yes, but that is another story...

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Phyrrus

My friend Oberon, I've been in covenience stores in LONDON (the capital of UK you know) in which NONE of the pakistanese employees COULD NOT SPEAK ENGLISH,

None of the employees could not speak English in London? Sorry to hear that they could speak English and swindled you.

What is pakistanese? Half Chinese and half Pakistani?

You do realize that "lazy gypsy" Romanians developed Silent Hunter 3,4,5?

[Phyrrus]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

None of the employees could not speak English in London? Sorry to hear that they could speak English and swindled you.

They counted on their fingers. Hard to believe, I know.

Originally Posted by Stealhead

You do realize that "lazy gypsy" Romanians developed Silent Hunter 3,4,5?

Yes, I know that, and I was NOT talking about them, as you very well know. That is the problem, when you put all the people of the same origin in the same cauldron. By gipsies I really meant the gipsies immigrating from romania to england. Do not be a carper please

About us being top of the list, I dunno, check some statistics, east europeeans are only a small percent of all your foreigners, compared to pakistaneese or chineese or arabs or god knows who else. Get to your senses, east europeeans are NOT europe's biggest problem. At least WE are europeeans. Some of us...

You had better tell that to the british government and the Kippers, perhaps they can get the Daily Fail to change the headlines about the Romanian/Bulgarian horde that is apparently battering down the gates of British civilisation.

What you dont know, that I went there to WORK, work hard and earn a living. But most of romanians (they are in fact lazy bastard gipsies) do NOT go there for work, they just want the social security, the go there to beg on the streets and rob and steal and get social security money, then come home and have a BMW X5 with the money they stole in England. I know because I see them both here and there.

Steroetypes much?
I have come across plenty of Romanians in Ireland, the majority are in the first category, the minority of those would be Roma.
Of the Romanians and Roma there are some that fit into your second category.

Even my immigrant blood boiled seeing those lazy good-for-nothing people in the hearts of England.

If they are lazy good for nothings then why are they working?
Indeed how are they running a business?

Ok, lets have a fresh start here, cuz many of you may think of me as a Nazi or KuKluxKan member of something - and I would't want to make a bad reputation on the first day joining this fine community, would I?

In that case avoid lines like....(they are in fact lazy bastard gipsies)...as that comes off a bit third reichish.

Why does nobody talks about chinese immigrants (at least not so often)? Coz they adapt to local customs (most of the time)

Have you been to Chinatown in London?
Or any other city which has a Chinatown?

They counted on their fingers. Hard to believe, I know.

That's a failing of the modern education system, most people nowadays don't get taught that very basic skill.
I made sure I taught my kids it, it also helps them to understand why base 12 originated and how the duodecimal system is so widespread throughout the world

[Phyrrus]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

In that case avoid lines like....(they are in fact lazy bastard gipsies)...as that comes off a bit third reichish.

You know, if that sounds III-rd Reichish to you, than I must be a III-rd Reichist indeed, because i cant and I wont take back those worsd I said. I meant exactly what I said. And i think Europe is just about to get another Reich in less then 50 yrs if it continues this way.

Read this post, its just a few lines above ours. Many other people are worried about this, more and more upset locals are going right wing.

And no, I have never been to any chinatown, I saw only small chinese communities, that is why I cant speak about them.
If you are right then situation is even worse. But nobody would dare touch the chinese, right? specially not US goverment. Because if you do, then Chinese would definitely rip apart your already ruined dollar and the entire US economy. Check the statistics about USA debt...

Originally Posted by Tribesman

If they are lazy good for nothings then why are they working?
Indeed how are they running a business?

Indeed, I never said they work, I said they dont... they are employed by other pakistani who own all these convenience stores. What they do is not called working about my standards.