Texas Court Throws 2nd, 4th Amendments Under The Bus

[Cybermat47]

Oh look, another flame war waiting to start

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Oh look, another flame war waiting to start

Not this time.

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Oh look, another flame war waiting to start

It seems you don't have much faith in the community as a majority?
In relation to discussing subject matter?

So far you have:Tribesman, Armistead, GoldenRivet, Kazuaki Shimazaki II and August discussing the thread in a civil and mature manner.
That's a total of 8 out of 9 posters (excluding Steve) which is a pretty good hit rate so far.
I don't see the advantages of your post? In any way?

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

It seems you don't have much faith in the community as a majority?
In relation to discussing subject matter?

So far you have:Tribesman, Armistead, GoldenRivet, Kazuaki Shimazaki II and August discussing the thread in a civil and mature manner.
That's a total of 8 out of 9 posters (excluding Steve) which is a pretty good hit rate so far.
I don't see the advantages of your post? In any way?

Sorry, it's just that in my experience, both in real life and on the internet, any discussion about gun control soon turns into an uncivil insult-fest.

I'm hoping to be proven wrong here.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Sorry, it's just that in my experience, both in real life and on the internet, any discussion about gun control soon turns into an uncivil insult-fest.

I'm hoping to be proven wrong here.

Hopefully you will be proven wrong.

Leave matters to the moderators...predicting angst could have the effect of starting it.

Today is Sunday, the day of rest and peace and I'm looking forward to that.

[Wolferz]

Everybody knows that Texas is a whole 'nother country.
Texas law trumps everything else. Just ask Chuck Walker Norris.

[August]

It seems that the cops are increasingly going to using no knock and SWAT teams as a first choice:

Today in America, SWAT teams are deployed about 100 to 150 times per day, or about 50,000 times per year -- a dramatic increase from the 3,000 or so annual deployments in the early 1980s, or the few hundred in the 1970s. The vast majority of today's deployments are to serve search warrants for drug crimes. But the use of SWAT tactics to enforce regulatory law also appears to be rising. This month, for example, a SWAT team raided the Garden of Eden, a sustainable growth farm in Arlington, Texas, supposedly to look for marijuana. The police found no pot, however, and the real intent of the raid appears to have been for code enforcement, as the officers came armed with an inspection notice for nuisance abatement.

The above is from an interesting article on the problem of police militarization.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3749272.html

[Platapus]

This can be especially concerning if (when) the police try to serve the warrant on the wrong address. Things like this do happen.

There is a fine line that needs to be drawn between respecting the freedom of citizens and the safety of evidence and LE personnel.

I don't know where that line should be, but I do know that it needs to be decided very carefully and with full understanding of how to mitigate the risks when improperly implemented.

I also do know that giving the police almost unlimited power is a sure way to devolve away from civil rights and into a police state.

It is all well and good to give the police the authority to change the rules, on site, if the tactical aspects of the case warrant. But, then the police need to be held accountable if the wrong decision is made.

That's what concerns me the most is the growing state of immunity from any consequence resulting from the actions of the police.

In a free society, the police can not be immune from the consequences of their actions. As the governmental body most able to infringe on the civil rights of innocent citizens, the police need to be held to a high standard and accountability.

Power without accountability is what social scientists call a "bad thing".

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Leave matters to the moderators...predicting angst could have the effect of starting it.

Subscribing.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Today is Sunday, the day of rest and peace and I'm looking forward to that.

Ever QWERTYOUS on the Lord's day Sire!