Silentotto CTD hunt.

[plj]

So, silentotto-ed my way to each campaign dock without CTD with 5.3 enabled. It can be ruled out as cause for CTD I think.

One thing I noticed while looking a bit closer into stuff, is that DynEnv contains a few of sober's patches, that are listed sepperately as well.
I'm starting to think that it's the list mikemike and I are using .. not the mods per sé. I'll be manually reviewing that list and bring it back to sober's one, except for where we use newer versions, see what that does.

[plj]

I can reliably reproduce the bug with sober's list (that's with RSD 4) See this post.

This makes it a so far unnoticed issue with sober's megamodlist imo. Question is, do we leave it at that or do we continue to track it down ? I'm all for tracking it down, and if possible solving it... this list is a huge improvement over stock SH5 .. it would be a shame to have to compromise.

Suggestions on how to proceed ?

[vdr1981]

Originally Posted by plj

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Suggestions on how to proceed ?

We should waith for Gap...He's commander afteral...

[plj]

I think I got lucky in a stroke of noob induced genius ...

>>> mikemike47 .. could you please remove 'SH5 Longer Repairs v1' from your list and try again ? <<<

Edit: Quite sure that's the issue .. running on the following modlist now, able to start the campaigns that gave CTD's earlyer.

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[D:\Games\Silent Hunter 5\MODS]

Accurate German Flags
sobers game loading tips V8 SH5
DBM Background Video
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk
U-Boat Watch Crew Routine SFX
Messervy_s_gramophone_pack1
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
Fuel Gauge WoGaDi_SteelViking's Interior
Fix clock rear torpedo room VIIA
Depth Charge Range Fix
Capthelms Audio+SV Touch Ups
sobers multi color mod V5
DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod
DynEnv v2.9 - No Underwater Impurity Patch
DynEnv v2.9 - 5.c Ambient Settings - Darker Nights-No Murky Waters
DynEnv v2.9 - 9. Sobers Best Ever Tweaks
DynEnv v2.9 - 12. Sounds
Small_trees_SH5_V1
sobers smoke screen V1 SH5 (DynEnv compatible)
sobers water splash anim SH5
sobers best ever fog  V22 SH5
sobers base sky mechanics V1
sobers better terrain v3 SH5
sobers waves mod V12 27032013
sobers more trees SH5
Window Lights Redone V1
New Torpedo Door Sound Mix
Pascal-sh5-Crew-Uniforms 06.2012
SH5_7A_Conning_Fix
SteelViking's Bunker Fixes V1.0
German U-Boat Hydrophone SFX
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast
FX Update 0.0.22 Torpedoes - MagDet range 3m (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
AI_sub_crew_1_0_2_TheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_jimimadrids_map_tools
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part1_07.06.2013
Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part 2_07.06.2013
Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part 3_24.06.2013
Sjizzles - Charts for NewUIs part 4_20.07.2013
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches)
gap - armaments & equipments patch v 0.2
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith_Patch_1
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 - no hyd on surface - NewUIs-IRAI compatible
silentmichal's interior mod 1.2.3
Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option One
Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector 1.0
Flower_Class_Corvette_Pack
Soldati Fix
NOZAURIO'S SKIN (Standar No Emblem) v-1.1.0
Expanded Navies by Cybermat47 v.1.0.01
smaller flags for Warships 1_0b
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2
OPEN HORIZONS II v2.2 - ORP Gryf and HMS Rocket no reflection patch
Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2
OH II Minefield map for TDWs Ui
RPM Hydrophone v2.2.1
R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.3 by vdr1981
SH5Lifeboats by Rongel TDW stoianm v2.1
SH5Lifeboat Wooden ver. 0.2
SkyBaron's Bold SFX for SH5 1.0
SkyBaron's Leigh Light for SH5 1.1
Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt w beards
MFCMCCDLite
Speech fixes and additions (english version)
sobers green crew training V4 SH5
TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke
sobers Lights Cfg V5 SH5
Trevally Tutorial - All v0.2(for OHIIv1.3)
Krauters Automated Scripts (v5_0_0 compatible)
Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v3.1
Trevally TDC Help v2
MadMaxs_SH5_Subdiesel (mono) v2
gap - Sonar Sound Collection v 1.0 for SH5 - Distorted
sobers no footstep sound mod
sobers Realistic contrast V6 SH5
EQuaTool 01.01 by AvM - Large Style
AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm
gap - HD 1 deg Scope Bearing v 1.0
sobers deck crew always whispering v2 SH5
sobers hud sounds V1 SH5
Reworked U-boat Guns (incomplete version)
sobers Depth of Field (DOF) V6 SH5
sobers map colors SH5 V1
Shadow Improvement ModLR
SH5 External Cargo 1.0
TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_149_0

Hmz .. just noticed fx update not being in there .. hold on.

[plj]

So yeah, make that:

FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX Update 0.0.22 Torpedoes - MagDet range 3m (modified for torpedoes failure patches)

For being the cause of CTD's in Battle of the Med.

[Rongel]

Originally Posted by plj

I think I got lucky in a stroke of noob induced genius ...

>>> mikemike47 .. could you please remove 'SH5 Longer Repairs v1' from your list and try again ? <<<

Edit: Quite sure that's the issue .. running on the following modlist now, able to start the campaigns that gave CTD's earlyer.

Hmm... I'm not at home computer right now, but I remember faintly that there was some issue here with EUF and my Longer Repair Times. There was a patch released to EUF and a hot fix, but could it be that my mod was already out and it wasn't updated to the latest EUF fixes.

I'll check this out later in the evening!

[plj]

I think I erred there .. as I also left out FXupdates 0.0.22 Just put longer repairtimes back in and will test again without fxupdates, as including them gives me CTD again.

[vdr1981]

With RSD you don't need Longer rapair times v1 at all, because it's already contained in RSD. You can look at equipment.upc and see what's going on. RSD uses Rongels equipment.upc, i just edited damage description for some equipments...

[Rongel]

Ok, found out that SH5 Longer Repair Times is compatible with EUF 1.4 but not with the Patch 1!

Don't know if this has been causing troubles or not, but worth fixing anyway. I'll update my mod soon, if R.S.D is using the same file than my mod, there is a problem also!

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by Rongel

Ok, found out that SH5 Longer Repair Times is compatible with EUF 1.4 but not with the Patch 1!

Don't know if this has been causing troubles or not, but worth fixing anyway. I'll update my mod soon, if R.S.D is using the same file than my mod, there is a problem also!

No, it's not causing troubles because I fixed your mod long ago but nevertheless I had the same/similar CTDs..

[gap]

Originally Posted by Rongel

Ok, found out that SH5 Longer Repair Times is compatible with EUF 1.4 but not with the Patch 1!

Don't know if this has been causing troubles or not, but worth fixing anyway. I'll update my mod soon, if R.S.D is using the same file than my mod, there is a problem also!

I don't remember if your mod affect weapon repair times as well. Probably no, but if yes Patch 1 hotfix also comes into the picture

Maybe, for avoiding confusionm it is time to repack TheBeast mod as a single package? I also see from his change log that at some point the Uboat sensor sim file was removed fro the mod, but it is still present in the current version, even though it gets ovewritten by many mods

Has anyone heard from him recently?

[Mikemike47]

Originally Posted by plj

>>> mikemike47 .. could you please remove 'SH5 Longer Repairs v1' from your list and try again ? <<<

Never used longer repairs on my modlist. I am crossing my fingers for the team who has time to debug this CTD issue.

[plj]

Originally Posted by Mikemike47

Never longer repairs on my modlist. I am crossing my fingers for the team who has time to debug this CTD issue.

It's not that one .. but it can be removed just the same.

I just tested a few things .. read back a little .. it's FX update in our list.

BUT

I just checked a minimal modlist .. WITH FX Updates .. and that works normal:

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[D:\Games\Silent Hunter 5\MODS]

Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast
FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_jimimadrids_map_tools
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches)
Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option One
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2
OPEN HORIZONS II v2.2 - ORP Gryf and HMS Rocket no reflection patch
Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2
OH II Minefield map for TDWs Ui
TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_149_0

[vdr1981]

Originally Posted by Mikemike47

I am crossing my fingers for the team who has time to debug this CTD issue.

Don't forget, YOU are part of the team also...

[Mikemike47]

Originally Posted by vdr1981

Don't forget, YOU are part of the team also...

I know. thanks. I just can not dedicate as much time as I was hoping to debug this bug. Sounds like a challenge I would really like . I've been doing a little debugging on the side, too. Not enough time to make a conclusion. So thanks everyone. RL.