GOP extortion now?

[WernherVonTrapp]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

What are they so afraid of in regard to a Clinton documentary?

Maybe it's; when the media starts courting one political party (and consequently it's ideals) over the other, especially involving a potential presidential candidate, it serves as an example for the definition of "propaganda".

Noun: propaganda
1. Information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause

Noun: propagandist
1. A person who disseminates messages calculated to assist some cause or some government

Adjective:propagandist
1. Of or relating to or characterized by propaganda

The media should restrict it's involvement in politics to objective/impartial reporting and/or debates. Not glamorizing or glorifying any politician or party.

[August]

I don't see how NBC or CNN can be considered as anything besides propaganda outlets for the Democrats. These two pieces on Hillary are clearly designed to enhance her image going into the next presidential election.

So Wolferz why exactly should the Republicans treat these organizations like legitimate media?

The media should restrict it's involvement in politics to objective/impartial reporting and/or debates. Not glamorizing or glorifying any politician or party.

You sound like the Australian politician currently complaining about the "mainstream" media..... where the owners of Fox own 70% of the countries newspapers.

So Wolferz why exactly should the Republicans treat these organizations like legitimate media?

Maybe they shouldn't, if you agree to that the Ds should treat Faux news as a team R propaganda outlet instead of an organ of legitimate media too.
After all whats good for the goose is good for the gander if you are going to be fair and balanced.

[WernherVonTrapp]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

You sound like the Australian politician currently complaining about the "mainstream" media..... where the owners of Fox own 70% of the countries newspapers.

Fox own 70% of Australia's newspapers? I didn't know that, but what does that have to do with objective/impartial reporting of politics in the USA?

After all whats good for the goose is good for the gander if you are going to be fair and balanced.

Absolutely.

[Wolferz]

I don't really care what the GOP moroffs do. Though I will congratulate them if they can finally manage to graduate to moron. Maybe then they'll get out of the business of playing the poor spoiled little rich guys.

Don't get me wrong, I don't favor either party because they both have selfish agendas that fail to coincide with reality and are most likely in collusion with each other on just about everything.

"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere and applying all the wrong remedies." ~Groucho Marx

Fox own 70% of Australia's newspapers? I didn't know that, but what does that have to do with objective/impartial reporting of politics in the USA?

Because its a global issue.
You made a comment which happens to mirror a daily moan delivered by the talking heads on Fox about US "mainstream" media(even though it is mainstream itself).
A look at other English speaking places where Newscorp has a longer establishment brings balance and shows that the complaint is pretty hollow whichever side of the fence it comes from.
The media is a mouthpiece of its owners and editors and will always slant to its owners views.
There is no way round it other than government censorship or banning privately owned media.
Neither of those options is in any way desirable.
Since the alternatives are distasteful in comparison with the current model it means it is just something we have to put up with.

[WernherVonTrapp]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Because its a global issue.
You made a comment which happens to mirror a daily moan delivered by the talking heads on Fox about US "mainstream" media(even though it is mainstream itself).
A look at other English speaking places where Newscorp has a longer establishment brings balance and shows that the complaint is pretty hollow whichever side of the fence it comes from.
The media is a mouthpiece of its owners and editors and will always slant to its owners views.
There is no way round it other than government censorship or banning privately owned media.
Neither of those options is in any way desirable.
Since the alternatives are distasteful in comparison with the current model it means it is just something we have to put up with.

I agree with your view on every point and understood these with my original post (except the Fox bit). I was merely making a suggestion in response to Wolferz question concerning the GOP of the U.S.. Even if a News/Media entity chooses which side to pander to, it still doesn't change the fact that it then becomes propaganda. Maybe there isn't anything anyone can do about it, but I'm not registered to vote on global issues, only U.S. ones.

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by August

I don't see how NBC or CNN can be considered as anything besides propaganda outlets for the Democrats. These two pieces on Hillary are clearly designed to enhance her image going into the next presidential election.

So Wolferz why exactly should the Republicans treat these organizations like legitimate media?

I will answer your question with another question...
Why should the Republican party be allowed to dictate content to be aired on any network, period!?
They would be well within their rights to complain if this was during an active presidential election cycle. Equal time and all that rot. But, it isn't. So why all the fuss? Are they that afraid of a run by Hilldog?
We have another three years before the next cycle begins the insanity anew and Hilldog still needs to get the nod from her party.

I nominate Pinnochio. At least we'd know for sure when he lies through his teeth.

[WernherVonTrapp]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Why should the Republican party be allowed to dictate content to be aired on any network, period!?...

They shouldn't. Neither party should, but as Tribesman and Ducimus pointed out, it is a free press, the networks are free to choose whomever they want to support, and different networks pander to different parties.
Anyway, I don't watch any of the networks' News programs anymore. I haven't for a long time. I just watch the local news and read some AP articles from my home page.

[Wolferz]

http://news.msn.com/us/gop-to-networ...ates?gt1=51501

Pay close attention to Karl Roves' tweet about it and the democratic response.

Also note one of the thorns that the RNC are crying about is actually an NBC show currently in production. NBC News is a separate component from NBC entertainment.

Threatening to boycott debates if these shows are aired seems grossly counter productive to me. Someone should maybe take Reinces' hammer away from him. That way he can't drive any more nails in the coffin.

[vienna]

Why should the Republican party be allowed to dictate content to be aired on any network, period!?
They would be well within their rights to complain if this was during an active presidential election cycle. Equal time and all that rot.

...

The 'equal time' conditions have not applied since -- surprise! -- the GOP lobbied and complained feverishly to have the "Fairness Doctrine" overturned. This is just one more case of the GOP shooting itself in the foot with some 'brilliant' idea fostered by the extreme right of the party. It is rather disingenous of the GOP to be crying foul when they are the ones who fouled their nests...

The GOP is currently fighting back efforts to have the "Fairness Doctrine" reinstated. They fear it would be detrimental to the survival of their own 'party organs' such as Limbaugh, Hannity, Fox News, et. al. ...


Here is description of the "Fairness Doctrine" from Wikipedia:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine


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[Wolferz]

Oh, let them keep banging their thumbs while driving the coffin nails. They've only been doing it since just prior to the civil war. A war that I think they were the primary architects of. And now they seem hell bent on designing their own demise.

Let the hot air begin.

[Oberon]

Steady on, I don't think it's fair to lay the causes of the Civil war at the GOPs feet.

[August]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Let the hot air begin.

I thought that happened when you started posting? It certainly smells like Democrat in here...

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Oh, let them keep banging their thumbs while driving the coffin nails. They've only been doing it since just prior to the civil war. A war that I think they were the primary architects of. And now they seem hell bent on designing their own demise.

Let the hot air begin.

It already has, and you're a part of it. You can criticize anyone you like, but do you have to bring your personal agenda into every single thread you post in? If you want to have that argument all over again every week, start a new thread. If not, please don't troll.