German drone almost collided with Afghan Airbus

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I only quoted or base on reports based on Bundeswehr, police and hunter assessment. When the Bundeswehr says the G36 after 3 magazines shot empty sprays so much that hitting somethign with it, not mentioning: man-stop-power, becomes a serious concern, then I dare to conclude even as a niovice that there is a problem. Even under normal firing coinditions, wind seems to be of more a concern than should be the case for the infantries primnary AR. The bullet for the cartridge they say weighs only, if I recall correctly, 4gr or 5gr. A 7.62 has 8 gr, I think I recall. Well, wind and weight and velocity - there is an inevitable interrelation between these three, you just cannot sneak around the elemental rules of physics.

Your still confusing a problem with the design of the weapon itself and not the cartridge.

Of course a larger bullet is going to have more power behind it that is obvious.That does not mean that a smaller round is just ineffective at all.


The grain weight of the bullet can vary greatly a 5.56x45 round can be as light as 45gr or as heavy as 100gr a 7.62x51mm round can range from 147gr to 175gr.

7.62x51mm can have problems as well it can simply punch right though a target and do little damage requiring a shooter have very good aim and hit a vital organ for the round to pass though.

If your ministry of defense blames all of the problems of the G36 on the bullet then they truly are inept.It would benefit H&K to claim the round itself is the problem rather than their weapon.The problems described are clearly a problem in barrel design and heat build up not the round.As I said though H&K would want people to blame the round not their crappy design.

Both the US and British military have over come issues of stopping power by no longer using the SS109 round and going with a different design.The US Army been using up to 100gr 5.56mm rounds in some applications and gotten very good effect close to 7.62x51mm.Not to say that one round can cover all applications but problems with 5.56mm can and have been over come by less inept military bureaucracies.

Again I question German hunters if they cant kill game that American and Canadian hunters drop all the time with 5.56mm.

a Roe deer typically weighs 33-77lbs if you are unable to take one with a 5.56mm rifle you are a horrible horrible marksmen on top of that 7.62x51mm is too large for game that size you would destroy too much tissue.

All of these boar where killed by 5.56mm rifles it is done very often in North America and our boars are larger.