ARMA II Thread

Oberon · 05-26-13, 01:38 PM

I'm currently grabbing the Project 85 collection, it looks like it has a pretty good overview of Cold War equipment in it, I remember downloading it back when I played Operation Flashpoint and I was impressed by it back then.
I'll have a look at what vehicles there are in it and post a suitable list here.
The next question is, are people alright with using Cold War era weapons, for example, iron sight weapons as opposed to weapons with scopes.

Hottentot · 05-26-13, 01:50 PM

Count me in. I have been missing Cold War stuff since Flashpoint. (Though I'm so spoiled by the rangefinder that I probably can't hit anything without it anymore unless I can get an SVD somewhere.)

I can't hang around for long tonight, but there should be some intel markers for you in the next main target in case you're playing.

Red October1984 · 05-26-13, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot

Count me in. I have been missing Cold War stuff since Flashpoint. (Though I'm so spoiled by the rangefinder that I probably can't hit anything without it anymore unless I can get an SVD somewhere.)

Gonna have to learn to use Mildots and do it all by hand.

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I can't hang around for long tonight, but there should be some intel markers for you in the next main target in case you're playing.

Is this open world map persistent? Stuff you leave on the side of the road in X town will stay there and such?

Raptor1 · 05-26-13, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Red October1984

Is this open world map persistent? Stuff you leave on the side of the road in X town will stay there and such?

Pretty much.

Hottentot · 05-27-13, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Red October1984

Gonna have to learn to use Mildots and do it all by hand.

That would be great advice is mildots didn't expect you to know what the range to the target at least approximately is in the first place. When my current effective engagement range with the LRR can easily be up to 1200 meters, such estimation becomes a wee bit difficult. SVD, on the other hand, as an in-build optical range finder.

So in short: no.

Edit: Don't. Post. Straight. After. Coming. Home. With. A. Dog. In. Order. Not. To. Mix. Definitions. And. Make. Yourself. Look. Like. (More. Of.) An. Idiot. Hottentot. Though I still prefer the SVD's method.

Dowly · 05-27-13, 01:15 AM

^ I believe the smallest grid square on the map is 100 meters, so that's a good way
to get approximate range to target.

///

Obie and I on top the "Traktor Hill".

The highly sophisticated KA-52 turned out to be too much for Oberon.

Hottentot · 05-27-13, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

^ I believe the smallest grid square on the map is 100 meters, so that's a good way
to get approximate range to target.

True, but playing with the map is a hassle. SVD can measure the distance ín seconds by simply putting the target in the PSO's own optical range finder. Mildots can do pretty much the same, but you still need to do the equation yourself, which takes a few more (possibly vital) seconds. Both are, of course, highly dependent on the target standing up, so in the case of targets getting prone or behind hills, the map could help.

In any case, I'd estimate I can make accurate shots up to 700 or 800 meters with both the M24 and the SVD. That's also about the effective range of at least the former. I ran some tests. Shot a guy in the face from 800 meters: there was that huge red puff indicating I hit, after which he was for a moment like "huh?", then went prone and started shooting at me.

I also did a little scouting trip on my own again after seeing you already took the town I marked you last time. Here is the preliminary intel from the next target.

It's armor-heavy and most of that stuff is moving around (like the T-72 you see to the North of its marked location), so the markers are not exact but point out the general positions. The infantry consists of Spetsnatz and a bunch of lightly armed villagers. In order to fit in more information, I abbreviated "infantry patrol" as "IP" and put after it their numbers and heading. So for example "IP, 4, S" means it's an infantry patrol of four men heading South.

I'm fairly sure I can lase the tower from the location I marked on the hill. I can also continue acting as a forward observer from there, but shooting anything myself might prove fatal. While the view is good, the ranges are not ideal and I'm afraid the AI would locate me quickly, unless it gets distracted by the rest of you attacking. I could also try taking out the Tunguska in order to clear the skies for the jets, but that would also end up in yours truly getting spotted and being forced to run. So I'd suggest one of us acts as a hit & run AT, whereas another one lases the tower before the attack.

Dowly · 05-27-13, 01:59 AM

The markers arent showing up. Make sure you switch the chat mode to side channel or global before marking them.

Hope it didnt take you too long to scout the target.

Red October1984 · 05-27-13, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot

That would be great advice is mildots didn't expect you to know what the range to the target at least approximately is in the first place. When my current effective engagement range with the LRR can easily be up to 1200 meters, such estimation becomes a wee bit difficult. SVD, on the other hand, as an in-build optical range finder.

So in short: no.

If you want to mess with Warsaw Pact weapons...go ahead... I'm just saying there is a way to calculate range to target with Mildots. I don't know if the game modeled it correctly...but it's doable in real life.

There's a website about Mildots and it has a user guide on how to use them. I'm gonna look at it closer tomorrow. Mildot User Guide

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Edit: Don't. Post. Straight. After. Coming. Home. With. A. Dog. In. Order. Not. To. Mix. Definitions. And. Make. Yourself. Look. Like. (More. Of.) An. Idiot. Hottentot. Though I still prefer the SVD's method.

Everybody acts like an idiot sometimes. Hell, I do it all the time.

It'll buff out.

Hottentot · 05-27-13, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Red October1984

I don't know if the game modeled it correctly...but it's doable in real life..

It does and its accurate. I just confused the measuring dots with the ballistic dots in haste, hence the edit right after posting. Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather add such edit instead of editing out the mistakes I make.

Dowly · 05-26-13, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

The next question is, are people alright with using Cold War era weapons, for example, iron sight weapons as opposed to weapons with scopes.

Yup.

Schroeder · 05-26-13, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Yup.

Yup too.

Arclight · 05-26-13, 06:40 PM

If we tighten the fire discipline a bit to avoid engaging outside our range, I suppose I can deal with iron sights.

(been trying to stick with the reflex sight on the M14 for a bit, which basically made me useless.

)

Oberon · 05-26-13, 07:11 PM

Firstly some shots from yesterday (well, day before yesterday now) before it all went down the pan.

Task Force brings an RPG to a gun fight

Standing around after the completion of the mission

Hmmmm

Task Force takes off, we all expect an explosion

One doesn't happen, so I make one with Task Forces MLRS

Bringing back the second lift chopper with Arclight

And now today...errr...yesterday...damn timezones!

The convoy lines up while Dowly and I take to the skies in the Hind

The WMD

The Green Screen of Death!

Taking off in the useless chopper, a screenshot to show my view whereas to Dowly I was getting a haircut from the rotors.

Arclight, Hunter and Raptor on mission

Dowlys ISP is shot down by a BMP

And to add insult to injury, Dowly forgot to bring the marshmallows...

Raptor1 · 05-26-13, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Arclight, Hunter and Raptor on mission

Judging by careful analysis, I'd say that's Schroeder there rather than me.

05-26-13, 01:50 PM	#2
Hottentot Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My private socialist utopia of Finland Posts: 1,918 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Count me in. I have been missing Cold War stuff since Flashpoint. (Though I'm so spoiled by the rangefinder that I probably can't hit anything without it anymore unless I can get an SVD somewhere.) I can't hang around for long tonight, but there should be some intel markers for you in the next main target in case you're playing. __________________ Хотели как лучше, а получилось как всегда.

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Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	If we tighten the fire discipline a bit to avoid engaging outside our range, I suppose I can deal with iron sights. (been trying to stick with the reflex sight on the M14 for a bit, which basically made me useless. ) __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

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05-26-13, 01:38 PM	#1
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I'm currently grabbing the Project 85 collection, it looks like it has a pretty good overview of Cold War equipment in it, I remember downloading it back when I played Operation Flashpoint and I was impressed by it back then. I'll have a look at what vehicles there are in it and post a suitable list here. The next question is, are people alright with using Cold War era weapons, for example, iron sight weapons as opposed to weapons with scopes.

05-27-13, 01:15 AM	#6
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,056 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	^ I believe the smallest grid square on the map is 100 meters, so that's a good way to get approximate range to target. /// Obie and I on top the "Traktor Hill". The highly sophisticated KA-52 turned out to be too much for Oberon.

05-27-13, 01:59 AM	#8
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,056 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	The markers arent showing up. Make sure you switch the chat mode to side channel or global before marking them. Hope it didnt take you too long to scout the target.

05-26-13, 07:11 PM	#14
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Firstly some shots from yesterday (well, day before yesterday now) before it all went down the pan. Task Force brings an RPG to a gun fight Standing around after the completion of the mission Hmmmm Task Force takes off, we all expect an explosion One doesn't happen, so I make one with Task Forces MLRS Bringing back the second lift chopper with Arclight And now today...errr...yesterday...damn timezones! The convoy lines up while Dowly and I take to the skies in the Hind The WMD The Green Screen of Death! Taking off in the useless chopper, a screenshot to show my view whereas to Dowly I was getting a haircut from the rotors. Arclight, Hunter and Raptor on mission Dowlys ISP is shot down by a BMP And to add insult to injury, Dowly forgot to bring the marshmallows...