What concerns you most about SHO?

desertstriker · 04-23-13, 05:02 PM

you hit it on the head Golden, and startrekmike is right too. I have noticed (heck i am only 20 this year) that my generation is more into the fast action shooters like Battlefield 3 and now 4. I even enjoy these games but they don't call to me like silent hunter 3 does.

This brings me to make this point we (and many others) have called for a SDK kit for SH3 but why don't they oblidge us? i can only imagine they are afraid of the fact we would revive the game and make it what SH5 and SH4 could have been. I point to a source code project called freespace2 open a while back volition released the source code and the game has been updated with really cool modern day shinny graphics and many moders have made their own models for ships.

Unfortunatly i thik Ubi is doing this to see if the multiplayer will revive the genre. and they look to many other games that are successful because of multiplayer. i point to call of duty battlefeild 3 and many more where you can complete the "story" in under 8 hours but then the devs design a multilayer that is more than the story and is designed to be the backbone of the game.

now if you want to know what really scares me about SHO it is what are they going to do to get money from players. yes it is free to play but all games that are F2P have some "hook" to get money will that stick us to basic torpedoes? a little type 2 and to get a better sub you have to pay? to join whatever form of alliance/guild you have to pay to join/ start? or oh you want a new conning tower or something that will be $20, or heaven forbid pay to repair.

Bathrone · 04-24-13, 08:55 PM

Ubisoft exploited cheap labour for SH4 and SH5 by doing the development in Romania and got pretty much a cheap quality product out the door. Ubisoft Romania eventually got itself into producing more high quality software later on (Assasins Creed) but those early projects didnt go well for them.

A sim game requires a whole bunch of subject matter expertise, research and functionally involved coding. As opposed to a shooter which has wider appeal and more straightforward environments and objects.

What tends to happen is smaller studios decide to take the risk on, and appeal to things like the greater shelf life of a sim game as opposed to the often rapid loss of interest with this weeks current shooter game in a way to get a publisher. Usually the publisher screw them over on dates, and the smaller studio wanting to establish itself accepts unrealistic publisher terms.

So increasing you find titles like SH5 and IL2 Cliffs of Dover failing miserably with unstable and buggy outcomes.

I dont mind the freemium model and I dont mind spending here and there on my gaming....Each of my graphics cards was over a thousand dollars....As opposed to other hobbies one might do like motorsport or sailing yachts this is pretty cheap.

My concern isnt the fremium model, its the loss of high quality, robust and detailed simulation games.

Cybermat47 · 04-24-13, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bathrone

Ubisoft exploited cheap labour for SH4 and SH5 by doing the development in Romania

They also made SHIII in Romania.

Vince82 · 05-07-13, 04:22 AM

SHO

-I think we can only welcome it. I'm not saying it will be a better sim than the silent hunter series we got already, but it will be a better game and it will evolve. 2d will become 3d in time.

-I think there is a way bigger market for it than the games we got at the moment. Which is great because than submarine games will be more popular.

-Support for SHO will be very good I expect.

Takeda Shingen · 05-08-13, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince82

SHO

-I think we can only welcome it. I'm not saying it will be a better sim than the silent hunter series we got already, but it will be a better game and it will evolve. 2d will become 3d in time.

-I think there is a way bigger market for it than the games we got at the moment. Which is great because than submarine games will be more popular.

-Support for SHO will be very good I expect.

Has there been an increase of sales and interest in Steel Beasts in the wake of World of Tanks? Moreover, unlike WoT, SHO is a brower game. I wouldn't count on it becoming SH3/4/5 online. All of this, combined with the now poor reputation of the series, doesn't add up to a financial success to in my view.

TheDarkWraith · 05-08-13, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Has there been an increase of sales and interest in Steel Beasts in the wake of World of Tanks? Moreover, unlike WoT, SHO is a brower game. I wouldn't count on it becoming SH3/4/5 online. All of this, combined with the now poor reputation of the series, doesn't add up to a financial success to in my view.

Want to see just how ashamed Ubi is of Silent Hunter 5? Go to ubi's website and try to find Silent Hunter V in their little scrollable windows for games. You can't find it! Silent Hunter III and IV is there though. You have to dig really deep to find any mention of Silent Hunter V.

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04-23-13, 05:02 PM	#1
desertstriker Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2012 Location: mod soup bar and grill Posts: 1,756 Downloads: 998 Uploads: 0	you hit it on the head Golden, and startrekmike is right too. I have noticed (heck i am only 20 this year) that my generation is more into the fast action shooters like Battlefield 3 and now 4. I even enjoy these games but they don't call to me like silent hunter 3 does. This brings me to make this point we (and many others) have called for a SDK kit for SH3 but why don't they oblidge us? i can only imagine they are afraid of the fact we would revive the game and make it what SH5 and SH4 could have been. I point to a source code project called freespace2 open a while back volition released the source code and the game has been updated with really cool modern day shinny graphics and many moders have made their own models for ships. Unfortunatly i thik Ubi is doing this to see if the multiplayer will revive the genre. and they look to many other games that are successful because of multiplayer. i point to call of duty battlefeild 3 and many more where you can complete the "story" in under 8 hours but then the devs design a multilayer that is more than the story and is designed to be the backbone of the game. now if you want to know what really scares me about SHO it is what are they going to do to get money from players. yes it is free to play but all games that are F2P have some "hook" to get money will that stick us to basic torpedoes? a little type 2 and to get a better sub you have to pay? to join whatever form of alliance/guild you have to pay to join/ start? or oh you want a new conning tower or something that will be $20, or heaven forbid pay to repair.

04-24-13, 08:55 PM	#2
Bathrone Ensign Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 234 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	Ubisoft exploited cheap labour for SH4 and SH5 by doing the development in Romania and got pretty much a cheap quality product out the door. Ubisoft Romania eventually got itself into producing more high quality software later on (Assasins Creed) but those early projects didnt go well for them. A sim game requires a whole bunch of subject matter expertise, research and functionally involved coding. As opposed to a shooter which has wider appeal and more straightforward environments and objects. What tends to happen is smaller studios decide to take the risk on, and appeal to things like the greater shelf life of a sim game as opposed to the often rapid loss of interest with this weeks current shooter game in a way to get a publisher. Usually the publisher screw them over on dates, and the smaller studio wanting to establish itself accepts unrealistic publisher terms. So increasing you find titles like SH5 and IL2 Cliffs of Dover failing miserably with unstable and buggy outcomes. I dont mind the freemium model and I dont mind spending here and there on my gaming....Each of my graphics cards was over a thousand dollars....As opposed to other hobbies one might do like motorsport or sailing yachts this is pretty cheap. My concern isnt the fremium model, its the loss of high quality, robust and detailed simulation games.

05-07-13, 04:22 AM	#4
Vince82 Engineer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 216 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	SHO -I think we can only welcome it. I'm not saying it will be a better sim than the silent hunter series we got already, but it will be a better game and it will evolve. 2d will become 3d in time. -I think there is a way bigger market for it than the games we got at the moment. Which is great because than submarine games will be more popular. -Support for SHO will be very good I expect.