[WIP] IRAI (Intelligent Random AI)

jensen.dkk · 02-19-13, 07:41 AM

if i enable irai 0039, my game closes everytime a plane strafes me. is this a known thing ? and how do i fix it ?

Rongel · 02-20-13, 01:20 PM

This might be discussed earlier, but here goes anyway...

When I attack a convoy and they spot me or are alerted by a torpedo explosion, all the ships start to make evasive manuevers and slow down to 5 knots. But by slowing down, they are much more easier targets, and if there is no escorts, I can spend the day by picking them up with like flowers in a meadow (

). Common sense says that the ships would hit full speed and get away from the danger. What was the historical method in these situations?

So is it possible to get the ships increase speed rather than slow down? Is there a technical restriction with this, some hard coded weird algorithm, or is this behaviour historically accurate?

gap · 02-20-13, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rongel

So is it possible to get the ships increase speed rather than slow down? Is there a technical restriction with this, some hard coded weird algorithm, or is this behaviour historically accurate?

Nice point

Personally I would expect a merchant ship to suddenly decrease her speed only after spotting a torpedo which presumably will hit her near the bow. In any other case max speed and frequent course changes seem to me a better startegy.

vlad29 · 02-20-13, 02:48 PM

The task was also to keep on the convoy order, and thus the speed of individual ship was limited by order speed. The ship lines of the order were making antisub maneuvering, but the general bearing (course) of the order was keeping the same. Thats all of tactics of merchants - all as one, all 'sheeps' together, those who get back and lost - often became the victims of 'wolves' and 'condors'.

volodya61 · 02-22-13, 10:47 AM

Hi TheDarkWraith!

I see you're 'almost' online and I decide to remind you about couple of issues..

With the new version (0.39) planes became absolutely safe.. they don't drop bombs.. they almost no shoot.. and I never seen this

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Airplanes will also call off the fight if they incur too much damage. If damage is too great to an airplane they will kamikaze.

as you mentioned in the first post..

also please take a look at the redline202's posts and Rongel's post above..

Thank you

gap · 02-22-13, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by volodya61

With the new version (0.39) planes became absolutely safe.. they don't drop bombs.. they almost no shoot.. and I never seen this
as you mentioned in the first post..

yes please!

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Originally Posted by volodya61

also please take a look at the redline202's posts and Rongel's post above..

as for redline202's post, though not strictly related with guns, I think this is something we could deal with in our Histrorical Guns Specs mod

THE_MASK · 02-22-13, 03:37 PM

The couple of planes i have encountered in the campaign so far with the latest IRAI have done a couple of recon flights over my sub . Then come in on a gun run using there cannons .

02-22-13, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gap

yes please!

as for redline202's post, though not strictly related with guns, I think this is something we could deal with in our Histrorical Guns Specs mod

Hi gap, im not sure what do you mean by saying "I think this is something we could deal with in our Histrorical Guns Specs mod"?
I have that great mod but it doesn't help regarding problem with escorts taking damage by DCs.
Thanks for looking into this matter.

Anyway i have solved that problem.
But i think it's not much realistic...regarding escorts armor and i had to change torpedo and deck gun damage too..but all in all it's working.

Maybe sometimes game play needs to be little bit above realism especially in SH5

GT182 · 02-22-13, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gap

Personally I would expect a merchant ship to suddenly decrease her speed only after spotting a torpedo which presumably will hit her near the bow. In any other case max speed and frequent course changes seem to me a better startegy.

The escorts will reduce their speed if they detect a torpedo coming at them. So don't mess with that in any changes you make, if it's possible.

For the merchants, max speed and frequent course changes would be a better startegy. But only if you can keep them from running into one another. That used to happened in SH3 a lot.

TheDarkWraith · 02-22-13, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GT182

The escorts will reduce their speed if they detect a torpedo coming at them. So don't mess with that in any changes you make, if it's possible.

For the merchants, max speed and frequent course changes would be a better startegy. But only if you can keep them from running into one another. That used to happened in SH3 a lot.

We have no control over how the AI uses evasive maneuvers when a torpedo is spotted. There is one function that takes care of it and I have no control over it

Same thing with the AI collision detection. No control.

ologuy · 02-23-13, 10:24 PM

The main file seems to be no longer downloadable.

THE_MASK · 02-24-13, 06:19 PM

Link on first page no longer available . Unable to download this mod .

02-19-13, 07:41 AM	#1
jensen.dkk Nub Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 3 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	plz help if i enable irai 0039, my game closes everytime a plane strafes me. is this a known thing ? and how do i fix it ?

02-20-13, 01:20 PM	#2
Rongel Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 859 Downloads: 174 Uploads: 0	This might be discussed earlier, but here goes anyway... When I attack a convoy and they spot me or are alerted by a torpedo explosion, all the ships start to make evasive manuevers and slow down to 5 knots. But by slowing down, they are much more easier targets, and if there is no escorts, I can spend the day by picking them up with like flowers in a meadow (). Common sense says that the ships would hit full speed and get away from the danger. What was the historical method in these situations? So is it possible to get the ships increase speed rather than slow down? Is there a technical restriction with this, some hard coded weird algorithm, or is this behaviour historically accurate?

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02-20-13, 02:48 PM	#4
vlad29 XO Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Arkhangelsk Posts: 427 Downloads: 324 Uploads: 0	The task was also to keep on the convoy order, and thus the speed of individual ship was limited by order speed. The ship lines of the order were making antisub maneuvering, but the general bearing (course) of the order was keeping the same. Thats all of tactics of merchants - all as one, all 'sheeps' together, those who get back and lost - often became the victims of 'wolves' and 'condors'.

02-22-13, 03:37 PM	#7
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	The couple of planes i have encountered in the campaign so far with the latest IRAI have done a couple of recon flights over my sub . Then come in on a gun run using there cannons .

02-23-13, 10:24 PM	#11
ologuy Mate Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 58 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	The main file seems to be no longer downloadable.

02-24-13, 06:19 PM	#12
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Link on first page no longer available . Unable to download this mod .