Stephen King on US gun contols.

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Not to impugn your unarmed abilities, but I have had full-contact sessions against a number of vets, and I had left unimpressed. While those techniques may be effective in the chaos of the battlefield, my experience there is no substitute for concentrated and formalized martial arts training, at least in isolated combat. The times when I've been rocked, and I mean really rocked, it's been by specialists.

That depends on what the person did in the military.I bet the guys you spared with where where mechanics or something of this nature in that case the most training they got in the military was some basic hand to hand stuff back in basic training.Many former military will claim to have been one job but if you where to look at their DD214 discharge papers they where really a cook and only deadly to powered milk.

Now an infantryman would be much better in fact they have a pride about hand to hand combat so they can be pretty good fighters but not ever infantryman is best at hand to hand.Now you spare with a former elite forces member that man would be pretty tough unless he got really lazy after he left the military.

I worked with this very mild mannered man that was a former Navy Seal only he never bragged about it or really even mentioned it.One day we where walked out of this gas station and for some reason or another this younger black kid got really mad because the ex SEAL (who also is a black person not sure if that is why the kid started the problem or not) bumped into him and embarrassed him in front of his "Gs".

The young kid(he was over 18 but young) was right the ex SEALs face talking smack and the whole time he just stood there and I am thinking "if this kid makes the mistake of striking its over." The whole time though ex SEAL is calm and quite.Finally the kid took a swing and the reactions was so fast and violent from the ex SEAL I could not tell what happened but the swing got blocked and a few strikes had the kid on the ground hardly able to breath.His "Gs" who appeared ready to bum rush just stood there in fear and you could tell that this action was a mild effort on part of my SEAL co-worker.

I often think what would that ex SEAL have done in a life or death situation? I don't know but it would have been very bad for the attacker.