Stephen King on US gun contols.

[Sammi79]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Could you please make the point why anyone would care what a fiction author's opinion is on gun control?

I am sure the guy who picks up my trash has an opinion on it too.

Gladly. I would say that the fact he is a fiction writer is irrelevant to the topic at hand compared to the fact he is born and bred American citizen and a proud owner of several guns, and that he is not personally profiting from this venture.

But then why would anyone place any value at all on opinions about a work they won't even read?

Why indeed would anyone care about anyone else opinion?

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Sammi79

Why indeed would anyone care about anyone else opinion?

That's the thing about the worth of opinions. When you put in your two cents, people will only give you a penny for your thoughts.

[Sammi79]

Originally Posted by Platapus

That's the thing about the worth of opinions. When you put in your two cents, people will only give you a penny for your thoughts.

Very droll.

Its quite good really, just unfortunate that everyone except its target audience will read it.

[Onkel Neal]

Who is the target audience? (And I object to the term "target" in this instance.) ((just kidding!)).

[TFatseas]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Who is the target audience? (And I object to the term "target" in this instance.) ((just kidding!)).

I find it funny that the book is supposed to "provoke rational discussion" yet all the proceeds go to the largest anti-2A lobby in America.

Yeah, ok.

[August]

Originally Posted by TFatseas

I find it funny that the book is supposed to "provoke rational discussion" yet all the proceeds go to the largest anti-2A lobby in America.

Yeah, ok.

"Provoke rational discussion" is liberalspeak for "we want to take away your right to own guns a incrementally".

Order they'll be taken:

Assault Weapons (semi-autos)
Saturday night specials (handguns)
Sniper Rifles (anything that can mount a scope)
Trench Sweepers (shotguns)

[Cybermat47]

I myself think that assault rifles should be banned, but not hunting rifles, handguns or shotguns.

[Cybermat47]

What's really ironic about all of his is that the pro-gun and anti-gun people all want the same thing: No more school shootings. They're all arguing about the way to stop that from happening.

Life is cruel.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Sammi79

Very droll.

I had a light breakfast. Drolls and Coffee.

[Penguin]

Some liberalwrite I can pretty much agree with: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment
It's all in the comma.
Like said before, I wish Team conservative would fight with the same energy for the rest of the Bill Of Rights than they do for the 2nd Amendment.

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

[...]the guide on how to conduct a schoolroom shooting (Rage)

'Rage' is a school massacre guide in the same way like 'It' is a guide to become a killer clown...

[Oberon]

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Penguin

Some liberalwrite I can pretty much agree with: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment
It's all in the comma.

That is a great article! Thanks for the link.

Like said before, I wish Team conservative would fight with the same energy for the rest of the Bill Of Rights than they do for the 2nd Amendment.

Boths sides have agendas, and it's all politics, with a lot of emotionalism and sensationalism added in.

[August]

Originally Posted by Penguin

'Rage' is a school massacre guide in the same way like 'It' is a guide to become a killer clown...

Maybe but the author himself was concerned enough about it to withdraw the book from publication. Mainly due to the following incidents:

• Jeffrey Lyne Cox, a senior at San Gabriel High School in San Gabriel, California, took a semi-automatic rifle to school on April 26, 1988 and held a humanities class of about 60 students hostage for over 30 minutes before being tackled and disarmed by another student. A friend of Cox told the press that Cox had been inspired by the Kuwait Airways Flight 422 hijacking and by the novel Rage,[2] which Cox had read over and over again and with which he strongly identified.[3]

• Dustin L. Pierce, a senior at Jackson County High School in McKee, Kentucky, armed himself with a shotgun and two handguns and took a history classroom hostage in a nine-hour standoff with police on September 18, 1989 that ended without injury. Police found a copy of Rage among the possessions in Pierce's bedroom, leading to speculation that he had been inspired to carry out the plot of the novel.[4]

• Barry Loukaitis, a student at Frontier Middle School in Moses Lake, Washington, walked from his house to the school on February 2, 1996, and entered his algebra classroom during fifth period. He opened fire at students, killing two and wounding another. He then fatally shot his algebra teacher, Leona Caires, in the chest. As his classmates began to panic, Loukaitis reportedly said, "This sure beats algebra, doesn't it?" — a line erroneously believed to be taken from Rage. (No such line appears in King’s story. The closest is when Charlie Decker quips, "This sure beats panty raids.") Hearing the gunshots, gym coach Jon Lane entered the classroom. Loukaitis was holding his classmates hostage and planned to use one hostage so he could safely exit the school. Lane volunteered as the hostage, and Loukaitis was keeping Lane at gunpoint with his rifle. Lane then grabbed the weapon from Loukaitis and wrestled him to the ground, then assisted the evacuation of students.[5]

• In December 1996 Michael Carneal shot three fellow students at a prayer meeting West Paduch. He had a copy of the book within the Richard Bachman omnibus in his locker. This was the incident that moved King to allow the book to go out of print.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_%2..._King_novel%29

Words and thoughts have power. I don't know why people so often refuse to believe that.

[Sammi79]

@August,

When was the first mass shooting spree in the US?

Life may imitate fiction, certainly.

but fiction is shaped by life in the beginning.

btw your bullet points 2&3 are speculative, and as such add nothing to the argument.

You want to read the essay, I'm sure you could tear a few holes in it

[Sammi79]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I had a light breakfast. Drolls and Coffee.

I'd make a joke out of that if I were a bit quicker.

But that's just not how I droll.

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