GWX team on SH5? MAYBE....please

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by desertstriker

a small amount of time to build a super mega mod

Well there's your problem right there That's two things that can never be in the same sentence.

Seriously guys, let it go. GWX were a great team with their time to shine, but it doesn't mean they should be looked at as the one and only. Nor are GWX all there was to the SH3 community, and I think a lot of people forget to give credit to all the things that happened before and around GWX that allowed much of it to happen.

While I agree that a full megamod would be a huge boost to the SH5 community, let new guys shine and do things their own way. Modding is not like commercial development, and it's not about how much the community wants a mod. As with GWX, it's a personal and team effort, motivated by modders' passion and not somebody else's wishes. You can wish all you like, but you can't bring back people who've moved on, because if their motivation is not there, it's not there. Instead, give your support to those who are doing the actual work here and now, and let them foster their passion into something new. Stop making the currently-active modders feel like they live in the shadow of the great and all-powerful GWX. Care more about their work, not the supposed second coming of GWX which will never happen.

Originally Posted by CCIP

While I agree that a full megamod would be a huge boost to the SH5 community, let new guys shine and do things their own way. Modding is not like commercial development, and it's not about how much the community wants a mod. As with GWX, it's a personal and team effort, motivated by modders' passion and not somebody else's wishes. You can wish all you like, but you can't bring back people who've moved on, because if their motivation is not there, it's not there. Instead, give your support to those who are doing the actual work here and now, and let them foster their passion into something new. Stop making the currently-active modders feel like they live in the shadow of the great and all-powerful GWX. Care more about their work, not the supposed second coming of GWX which will never happen.

Very well said!

[kapitan_zur_see]

Not to mention that by working outside of a GWX team on SH5, modders like TDW and privateer DO actually EXPLAIN how they achieve things for all modders to learn this time... eheh

Even if it makes it take more time, I for one, prefers a bunch of modders that won't go "silent running", per se

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by kapitan_zur_see

Not to mention that by working outside of a GWX team on SH5, modders like TDW and privateer DO actually EXPLAIN how they achieve things for all modders to learn this time... eheh

Even if it makes it take more time, I for one, prefers a bunch of modders that won't go "silent running", per se

That's all water under the bridge, and better left alone, especially when you tacitly insult someone and make it look like a joke. Just let it go, already.

[CCIP]

Oh, and as for a megamod, like I said, it'd be a huge boost. If I have the time and energy, I might well get involved in (and suggest to Neal) the idea of a Subsim-sponsored mod collection of some sort. I think Sober's mod list is already a good part of the way there. A lot of the smaller mods that make up that list have matured well by this point. From Subsim's perspective, it'd be a great thing for our community if we could somehow get a complete set of mods in one download, one install. I'm sure it'll happen, just a matter of when and how.

[desertstriker]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Oh, and as for a megamod, like I said, it'd be a huge boost. If I have the time and energy, I might well get involved in (and suggest to Neal) the idea of a Subsim-sponsored mod collection of some sort. I think Sober's mod list is already a good part of the way there. A lot of the smaller mods that make up that list have matured well by this point. From Subsim's perspective, it'd be a great thing for our community if we could somehow get a complete set of mods in one download, one install. I'm sure it'll happen, just a matter of when and how.

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Oh, and as for a megamod, like I said, it'd be a huge boost. If I have the time and energy, I might well get involved in (and suggest to Neal) the idea of a Subsim-sponsored mod collection of some sort. I think Sober's mod list is already a good part of the way there. A lot of the smaller mods that make up that list have matured well by this point. From Subsim's perspective, it'd be a great thing for our community if we could somehow get a complete set of mods in one download, one install. I'm sure it'll happen, just a matter of when and how.

I would e-kiss you CCIP!!! While I LOVE GWX on my SH3... and still play it a lot today... I would love to see some of these GREAT new mods that have taken advantage of the new features of SH5 be worked into a MEGA-MOD that at least 1) helps new players load just one mod that fixes 85% of the crud that is SH5 vanilla (great to get new long term players) and 2) allows me to not give up on SH5 due to mod soup issues.

Great post

[Targor Avelany]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Well there's your problem right there That's two things that can never be in the same sentence.

Seriously guys, let it go. GWX were a great team with their time to shine, but it doesn't mean they should be looked at as the one and only. Nor are GWX all there was to the SH3 community, and I think a lot of people forget to give credit to all the things that happened before and around GWX that allowed much of it to happen.

While I agree that a full megamod would be a huge boost to the SH5 community, let new guys shine and do things their own way. Modding is not like commercial development, and it's not about how much the community wants a mod. As with GWX, it's a personal and team effort, motivated by modders' passion and not somebody else's wishes. You can wish all you like, but you can't bring back people who've moved on, because if their motivation is not there, it's not there. Instead, give your support to those who are doing the actual work here and now, and let them foster their passion into something new. Stop making the currently-active modders feel like they live in the shadow of the great and all-powerful GWX. Care more about their work, not the supposed second coming of GWX which will never happen.

awesome reply.

[desertstriker]

ok so maybe the GWX crew was a bad thought. but a mega mod would be nice.

Originally Posted by desertstriker

ok so maybe the GWX crew was a bad thought. but a mega mod would be nice.

then why dont you use the mega mods they already have for sh5?

"sobers mod list" is one and the "my mega mod" is another and then there is "magnum opus"

[desertstriker]

I mean one that is an easy install and doesnt take a super long time to get running/ downloaded