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Old 06-23-12, 05:00 PM   #1
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I am sorry Oberson, are you someone who believes the bible is the word of God?
I believe that it is mans interpretation of Gods will.
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Old 06-23-12, 05:10 PM   #2
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I believe that it is mans interpretation of Gods will.

But not a translation of God's words?
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Old 06-23-12, 05:30 PM   #3
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But not a translation of God's words?
In a manner of speaking, it is a translation, but as with any translation done, error creeps in. Then when you take that original word and then re-translate it again and again over the space of two thousand years then what you have at the end of it deviates from the original words.
When you look at the original word translated into Hebrew, then the King James version, and all versions since. At each time, slight alterations from man creep in, what one translator meant might not be picked up by another or misinterpreted.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to how these words are interpreted, like any book, everyone takes away something different from it.
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In a manner of speaking, it is a translation, but as with any translation done, error creeps in. Then when you take that original word and then re-translate it again and again over the space of two thousand years then what you have at the end of it deviates from the original words.
When you look at the original word translated into Hebrew, then the King James version, and all versions since. At each time, slight alterations from man creep in, what one translator meant might not be picked up by another or misinterpreted.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to how these words are interpreted, like any book, everyone takes away something different from it.
That sounds reasonable for someone not versed in bible history concerning
two very important facts.

1.) The history of the ancient Jewish methods in making exact copies of
the Old Testament scriptures.
2.)The huge number of original New Testament scriptures.

These two areas are a fascinating study that can easily dispel any serious
doubts.

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Old 06-23-12, 05:47 PM   #5
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That sounds reasonable for someone not versed in bible history concerning
two very important facts.

1.) The history of the ancient Jewish methods in making exact copies of
the Old Testament scriptures.
2.)The huge number of original New Testament scriptures.

These two areas are a fascinating study that can easily dispel any serious
doubts.

ZeeWolf
This is something I shall have to look into. Thank you.
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Old 06-23-12, 06:03 PM   #6
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This is something I shall have to look into. Thank you.
Look into it then laugh
1. shows he hasn't a clue and doesn't go near your point
2. try and show a single example where that statement is even remotely true.
The nazi "christian" is as clueless on scripture as he is on most things, though he is correct that it is a fascinating area of study, perhaps he should try it sometime
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Kneeling in front of the manual of a Harry Potter game and mumbling "Abrakadabra", doesn't make wizardy any more real, and the manual not any more holy. Even if it is a print from the first edition.
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Kneeling in front of the manual of a Harry Potter game and mumbling "Abrakadabra", doesn't make wizardy any more real, and the manual not any more holy. Even if it is a print from the first edition.

I completely agree. Of course, everyone is allowed to have their opinion on such things.
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I completely agree. Of course, everyone is allowed to have their opinion on such things.
Yes, as long as he does not try to change the world for the others as well, with nothing else but a Harry Potter spellbook as his justification, and as long as he does not abuse children to poisen their undefended minds with his stuff for the mere reason that they are young, and their minds not yet can weigh, judge and form an educated assessement of the matter themselves. Religions indoctrinating already small children and young teens, is one of he most cyncial and inhumane crimes I know of. I rate it the same like sexual abuse and rape, or genital mutilation.
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