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Old 05-22-12, 08:22 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Armistead View Post
Wow, you know so lil about the bible. The entire theme of the NT is love and how it connects to "do no harm" Christ and apostles often taught instead of codes we have a new law that fulfills all law.......
Remember the bolded part - we are going to come back to it.....

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Gal 5.4
The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself."
Struggle to read? Galatians 5:4 is not what you quoted. It is:
"Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace"

I assume you meant Gal 5:14?

The commandments were in 2 parts - love your neighbor completes the final 6 - which is dealing with your fellow man. It entirely neglects the first 4. This is NOT a Biblical error - its is about the context of the passage - those who held to "law" alone were not justified - for redemption and salvation comes only through Christ, not through the law.

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Romans 13:10
Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Context - Romans 12:9
"For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."

Count em up - there are not 10 commandments there. Given that this was in reference to the dealing of a man to his society - and not to God, its accurate. However, your showing a distinct lack of scholarship and understanding if your suggesting that loving your fellow man (as in mankind - not as in gay sex) somehow equates to accepting salvation, following the will of the Lord and worshipping HIM.

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Love fulfills the law by doing no harm. You won't find love fulfilling the law except by "doing no harm.
Really? Yet the law is repeatedly held in abeyance under the direct command of God. Or were orders to kill ever man, male child and non-virgin woman of the Midianites love that did no harm? There are multiple examples of that in the Bible too.

Oh - and since you want to quote Paul - and I find it quite funny given the original topic as well... perhaps you would like to address and explain Romans 1:27-32 - in which Paul clearly states that homosexuals - along with others - are "worthy of death". Kind of a harsh statement from a guy who later says "just love everybody", isn't it?

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I can quote many scriptures that state "love does no harm, thus fulfills the law"....
Yes - just like everyone else can. But anyone can take something out of context to make it LOOK like something else. Its a favorite tactic of those who don't like what the Bible actually has to say - who feel it just doesn't fit their own personal morals. Its also readily transparent and easily pointed out.

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As a Christian maybe you should learn this most important principle
And as someone who is doing your best to continue the perversion of the Christian faith by throwing out such misinformation - take a bit of correction. You forget or are intentionally ignoring the fact that Paul was writing to fellow believers and those who would be fellow believers. To seek to apply its tenents globally is yet another fallacy often put forth by those that seek to ultimately discredit the Word of God. Again - nice try - but its a failure.

Oh - and fulfill the law - remember Matthew 5:17 - we don't need to "fulfill the law" - for the Lord Jesus came and did exactly that.
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