Gay marriage ban passes in NC

[August]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Interesting poll on support for same-sex unions here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/pollin...CBjT_page.html#

you can break down the results and it shows the opposition to same-sex unions is greater among individuals who fit the following criterias:

-Republicans
-conservatives
-older
-less educated
-lower income
-white evangelical protestants
-support Tea Party

was'nt that the typical profile for members of the KKK?

I dunno does the other profile fit for members of the Black Panthers?

And what does this partisan run poll say about those who don't care if gays can form same sex unions but feel it should be called something besides marriage?

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by August

And what does this partisan run poll say about those who don't care if gays can form same sex unions but feel it should be called something besides marriage?

Do you have your own partisan poll that shows substantially different results?

The big takeaway for me was the correlation between support and age, young people 18-39 show very strong support for same-sex unions, so it is only a matter of time before this issue is resolved once and for all.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Do you have your own partisan poll that shows substantially different results?

The big takeaway for me was the correlation between support and age, young people 18-39 show very strong support for same-sex unions, so it is only a matter of time before this issue is resolved once and for all.

That's my thinking on it too. The inexorable march of progress will leave the bigots behind when they die off.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Do you have your own partisan poll that shows substantially different results?

So you admit your poll was partisan - thus negating any claim to its validity. At least your honest....

The big takeaway for me was the correlation between support and age, young people 18-39 show very strong support for same-sex unions, so it is only a matter of time before this issue is resolved once and for all.

Again - your showing your total ignorance of fact. College kids - even in the WNC liberal area of Asheville - UNCA students - broke even on this. Same goes for other areas of the state. Every breakdown politically showed that this was NOT "very strongly" supported by college kids. Keep repeating your mantra if it helps you believe it - but the facts don't bear it out. Do some research before you start making claims - and then back them up with the research from something other than a "partisan poll".

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

That's my thinking on it too. The inexorable march of progress will leave the bigots behind when they die off.

Thanks mookie - you just called me (and many others) a bigot. And whats worse - your doing it on merely the basis of your own viewpoint. This is why there can't be a decent discussion - when the left doesn't get its way, when it can't win a factual arguement - it resorts to namecalling. Thats sad - on so many levels.

You might also want to tone it done since personal insults are against the rules here as well...

If someone doesn't like being called a bigot, then they shouldn't engage in bigotry.

Then again - what do rules matter if they don't go along with what you lefties want?

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

So you admit your poll was partisan - thus negating any claim to its validity. At least your honest....

nice try

Again - your showing your total ignorance of fact. College kids - even in the WNC liberal area of Asheville - UNCA students - broke even on this. Same goes for other areas of the state. Every breakdown politically showed that this was NOT "very strongly" supported by college kids. Keep repeating your mantra if it helps you believe it - but the facts don't bear it out. Do some research before you start making claims - and then back them up with the research from something other than a "partisan poll".

The poll is solid as is my interpretation. If you have any actual hard data that refutes it, please present it, otherwise your opinion is just that.

and if you do not want to be insulted, do not be insulting yourself. I won't be as nice next time.

Thanks mookie - you just called me (and many others) a bigot. And whats worse - your doing it on merely the basis of your own viewpoint. This is why there can't be a decent discussion - when the left doesn't get its way, when it can't win a factual arguement - it resorts to namecalling. Thats sad - on so many levels.

ok, I'll bite, what possible justification could you have to care if two complete strangers want to get married or not?

Then again - what do rules matter if they don't go along with what you lefties want?

This is not a left-right issue. I am very conservative on many topics. This is an issue of treating other law abiding citizens with the same respect as you or I would wish to be treated.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

That's my thinking on it too. The inexorable march of progress will leave the bigots behind when they die off.

Sometimes Mookie I think you will accept anything. Bigotry will forever be a part of society.

If someone doesn't like being called a bigot, then they shouldn't engage in bigotry.

Do your accept all comers and situations such as the gay marriage question? Do you unequivocal accept everything?

[Blood_splat]

Marriage is between man and dog. It's in the holy book of canines.

Marriage is between man and dog.

So when he said his wife is a bitch......

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

So when he said his wife is a bitch......

The thread isn't about religion but to use your example do you really think that any Christian is going to want listen to you once you call their central religious text a fable?

Any christian that knows their text wouldn't have much of a problem with his comment, "christians" might though.

Dude this is not a pro-christian board. According to many here Jesus not only does not rule, any mention of him should be kept hidden from public view.

Can anyone top that for a display of false victim mentality?
It really is a doozy of magnificent proportions.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Blood_splat

Marriage is between man and dog. It's in the holy book of canines.

Considering the women I know, this man is a genius

[razark]

Originally Posted by Blood_splat

Marriage is between man and dog. It's in the holy book of canines.

I'll dive headfirst down this slippery slope and say that I have no problem with this.

Of course, you do have proof that the dog consented to the marriage, right?

Originally Posted by August

What about people (like me) who don't care if gays form a permanent union but just feel it should be called something other than "marriage"?

"Separate but equal" is by its very nature unequal.

[August]

Originally Posted by razark

"Separate but equal" is by its very nature unequal.

Cliche's tend to oversimplify so you really shouldn't rely on them in an argument. Your name is different than mine. Does that make us unequal? No. We name things to categorize and identify them, not to make them unequal.

[razark]

Originally Posted by August

Your name is different than mine. Does that make us unequal?

Only if you try to deny me rights because my name is different from yours.

[August]

Originally Posted by razark

Only if you try to deny me rights because my name is different from yours.

But that's the whole point of Civil Unions. You wouldn't get any more or less rights or benefits by getting married as opposed to obtaining a civil union, you're just calling something different a different name. That is all.