Are schools going too far?

Onkel Neal · 03-23-12, 01:53 PM

I hope you're kidding. Porn stars do not belong at school functions.

Dowly · 03-23-12, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I hope you're kidding. Porn stars do not belong at school functions.

How so? It's not like they are going to spontaneously transform into a hardcore porn scene or something.

Osmium Steele · 03-23-12, 02:46 PM

His mother must be so proud.

Takeda Shingen · 03-23-12, 03:16 PM

I completely agree with the ban on hugging and the ban on the porn star. Parents have complained for far too long about touching and what is appropriate. Fine, now there is no touching; not by students, teachers, administrators, janitors--nobody touches anybody else in any manner. Problem solved. I wish that they had that policy back when I was teaching in K-12 education.

As for the porn star, that is a no brainer. The school does not want to project that sort of image. Since the event is school-sponsored, the school gets the final word. Note that the administation said that they would need approval for a non-Tartan student. That is to weed out people that try to run the end-around on common sense via technicality. Nicely worded and I approve.

eddie · 03-23-12, 03:28 PM

My point in bringing this article up was mainly I couldn't believe he would do that,lol A porn star was going to bring a quick reaction from the administration or the school board! No way they would allow it.

Diopos · 03-23-12, 04:14 PM

Are schools going too far?

In this case certainly not.

.

u crank · 03-23-12, 04:25 PM

If your kid can bring a porn star to prom then my kid can bring a white supremacist. Sets a precedent that people could take advantage of.

MH · 03-23-12, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

--nobody touches anybody else in any manner. Problem solved......
.

Very sad.

Takeda Shingen · 03-23-12, 04:35 PM

Maybe, but as a guy that worked in the system it sounds ideal to me. This puts an end to the 'Johnny keeps touching me in line' and 'Mr. So-And-So touched me trouble. Of course, I have just come home from the work week and could just be cranky. Ask me tomorrow and you may get a different answer. Mine change all the time.

the_tyrant · 03-23-12, 05:08 PM

On the bright side, I can still bring a porn star to prom next year!

Question is, how can I find one

Skybird · 03-23-12, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I hope you're kidding. Porn stars do not belong at school functions.

^This.

The hugging prohibition however leads far too far.

August · 03-23-12, 07:51 PM

I'll have to add my endorsement to mandatory uniforms. Even in adult education they are handy for instilling professionalism and good work habits.

We have a full length mirror in the lobby that has a sign next to it that says:

"Do you see the professional you are training to become?"

mookiemookie · 03-23-12, 08:18 PM

As the product of a public elementary school system where uniforms weren't required and then a private high school where they were, I absolutely 100% support mandatory school uniforms. They instill a professional and businesslike atmosphere.

I don't buy this "freedom of expression" crap that the anti-uniformers argue. Dude, you're 12. What groundbreaking and vital personal expression does a 12 year old have to make? Kids are in school to learn, not make a fashion statement of their individuality. Besides, if they can't express themselves through their words and deeds and need clothes to do it, then they're turning out to be a shallow individual.

Stealhead · 03-23-12, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

I'll have to add my endorsement to mandatory uniforms. Even in adult education they are handy for instilling professionalism and good work habits.

We have a full length mirror in the lobby that has a sign next to it that says:

"Do you see the professional you are training to become?"

I agree with you here but the wear of uniforms must also be implemented as part of an entire program uniforms alone I feel do not instill discipline.

Many people seem to forget that there a some very non professional organisations that wear a manner of uniform street gangs I see a uniform as way of showing that you belong to a group be it a school,an agency,the military,an institution(prison) not necessarily a sign of professionalism.

I think that grade schools should have something similar to a roll call in the military each morning ( done in the military at the start of each shift) one of the purpose of a roll call is to establish
discipline and command it establishes order and respect it is also a time to announce important information.In some nations like Japan they do this at school they also sing a song as a group before beginning class this is all done in one gathering not over an PA system.

Schooling should prepare a student with the fundamentals to allow them to be a productive member of society I think most American schools fail at this goal.

August · 03-23-12, 10:52 PM

It seems we've concentrated on being individuals so much we forgot it's a team that usually gets the job done best.

03-23-12, 02:46 PM	#3
Osmium Steele Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Upper midwest USA Posts: 1,101 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	His mother must be so proud. __________________ In the month of July of the year 1348, between the feasts of St. Benedict and of St. Swithin, a strange thing came upon England... My U297 build thread

03-23-12, 03:28 PM	#5
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	My point in bringing this article up was mainly I couldn't believe he would do that,lol A porn star was going to bring a quick reaction from the administration or the school board! No way they would allow it. __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

03-23-12, 04:14 PM	#6
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Are schools going too far? In this case certainly not. . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

03-23-12, 04:25 PM	#7
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,747 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	If your kid can bring a porn star to prom then my kid can bring a white supremacist. Sets a precedent that people could take advantage of. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

03-23-12, 05:08 PM	#10
the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	On the bright side, I can still bring a porn star to prom next year! Question is, how can I find one __________________ My own open source project on Sourceforge OTP.net KGB grade encryption for the rest of us

03-23-12, 01:53 PM	#1
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	I hope you're kidding. Porn stars do not belong at school functions.

03-23-12, 03:16 PM	#4
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I completely agree with the ban on hugging and the ban on the porn star. Parents have complained for far too long about touching and what is appropriate. Fine, now there is no touching; not by students, teachers, administrators, janitors--nobody touches anybody else in any manner. Problem solved. I wish that they had that policy back when I was teaching in K-12 education. As for the porn star, that is a no brainer. The school does not want to project that sort of image. Since the event is school-sponsored, the school gets the final word. Note that the administation said that they would need approval for a non-Tartan student. That is to weed out people that try to run the end-around on common sense via technicality. Nicely worded and I approve.

03-23-12, 04:35 PM	#9
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Maybe, but as a guy that worked in the system it sounds ideal to me. This puts an end to the 'Johnny keeps touching me in line' and 'Mr. So-And-So touched me trouble. Of course, I have just come home from the work week and could just be cranky. Ask me tomorrow and you may get a different answer. Mine change all the time.

03-23-12, 07:51 PM	#12
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,220 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'll have to add my endorsement to mandatory uniforms. Even in adult education they are handy for instilling professionalism and good work habits. We have a full length mirror in the lobby that has a sign next to it that says: "Do you see the professional you are training to become?" __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

03-23-12, 08:18 PM	#13
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	As the product of a public elementary school system where uniforms weren't required and then a private high school where they were, I absolutely 100% support mandatory school uniforms. They instill a professional and businesslike atmosphere. I don't buy this "freedom of expression" crap that the anti-uniformers argue. Dude, you're 12. What groundbreaking and vital personal expression does a 12 year old have to make? Kids are in school to learn, not make a fashion statement of their individuality. Besides, if they can't express themselves through their words and deeds and need clothes to do it, then they're turning out to be a shallow individual. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

03-23-12, 10:52 PM	#15
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,220 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It seems we've concentrated on being individuals so much we forgot it's a team that usually gets the job done best. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode