A Bunch of Young Lawyers are Suing Their Law Schools Because They Don't Have Jobs

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

would these people gather any more sympathy if they had been of some other profession?

No

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

if the information has been twisted around to suit the needs of the person selling you the goods... you're being had.

If you get your informations about a product solely from the seller you're not being had but being stupid.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Penguin

If you get your informations about a product solely from the seller you're not being had but being stupid.

At the same time, should there not be some kind of honesty in advertising?

There used to be, when I was a kid. Now the news itself spews bullcrap.

There is no more honesty, just tell them what they want to hear until you have the money. Then shrug and play stupid afterwards.

Maybe, I am changed on this. Perhaps America itself, from Wall Street, down to people who signed "liars loans" to be held accountable.

That means everyone from the welfare defrauder, to the economy wrecking bankers.

Accountability.

When I was a young man, I hit a guy in his face with a beer pitcher.
He grabbed my soon to be wifes bosom, yet I still went to jail for a few days.

I was held accountable, as I should have been.

I am simply waiting for such justice for everyone else, perhaps this is the start. Academia has been getting away with this crap for years.

Most have raised rates during the recession, even as students are having tough times finding jobs afterwards. The schools do not care. Most of their money comes from guaranteed loans. The schools are paid, it is the student who is saddled with the debt.

Better you than me, now get out from front of my Mazerati, you turd!

We got ours, screw you kid. I hope you like flipping burgers with that law degree.

[MH]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

At the same time, should there not be some kind of honesty in advertising?
.

I can agree to that....but as a American who lives in the nest of hardcore capitalism and consumer economy you should know better than that...

Suing for false advertising is OK..why not...on another hand it is stupid to take career decisions based on them.
Finishing some school may not make one a good lawyer so should one be able to sue the establishment for being inadequate too?

OHHH but they promised me job

At the same time, should there not be some kind of honesty in advertising?

There used to be, when I was a kid. Now the news itself spews bullcrap.

Rose tinted glasses.
Advertising is advertising and the news has always had plenty of bullcrap.

When I was a young man, I hit a guy in his face with a beer pitcher.

A rose tinted glass?

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

At the same time, should there not be some kind of honesty in advertising?

There used to be, when I was a kid.

Seriously?





When I took advertising in college they said our job was to make the product, "the hero", no matter how odious we thought the product was. That's always been advertising in a nutshell.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Seriously?

"I'm not a doctor, but I play one on television."

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Seriously?





When I took advertising in college they said our job was to make the product, "the hero", no matter how odious we thought the product was. That's always been advertising in a nutshell.

Scientific evidence!?! Well it must be true!

When I took advertising in college they said our job was to make the product, "the hero", no matter how odious we thought the product was. That's always been advertising in a nutshell

Are you talking about the cigs or the lawyers?

[Schöneboom]

This WSJ article goes into more depth about the law school/job market issue:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119040786780835602.html

To be fair to Brooklyn Law School, the one being sued, it cannot be considered a "diploma mill" by any means. Second-tier, yes, compared to the heavy hitters (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, et al.). But it isn't enough to be an average student, not from that school, not in today's market. And only a few can be at the top. Brutally Darwinian, eh? (Reminds me of my Hollywood years.)

Looking at what contract attorneys earn in their cubicles while digging out of debt, I suspect many would've better off as electricians, plumbers, or nurses. Unless of course they really "love" the legal profession. I've heard some people do.

Breaking silence to offer a word of advice to those of you seeking higher education:

You can't do that, you don't do advertising for Brooklyn law school so can't say anything on the topic

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

You can't do that, you don't do advertising for Brooklyn law school so can't say anything on the topic

Holy crap, you're right. I also did not invent the qwerty keyboard; that was Christopher Latham Sholes in the 1870's. Using it to express myself is, therefore, an invalid form of correspondence when used by an any other individual.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Schöneboom

This WSJ article goes into more depth about the law school/job market issue:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119040786780835602.html

To be fair to Brooklyn Law School, the one being sued, it cannot be considered a "diploma mill" by any means. Second-tier, yes, compared to the heavy hitters (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, et al.). But it isn't enough to be an average student, not from that school, not in today's market. And only a few can be at the top. Brutally Darwinian, eh? (Reminds me of my Hollywood years.)

Looking at what contract attorneys earn in their cubicles while digging out of debt, I suspect many would've better off as electricians, plumbers, or nurses. Unless of course they really "love" the legal profession. I've heard some people do.

I think is the entire problem many of these law school grads are expecting to get the $160,000.00 a year starting pay that a mere handful are getting when they simply wont and may never get to that pay scale.Times are tightener for any electrician or plumber but they also have the benefit being in a trade that is relatively inexpensive to train in so they wont be paying of debts for 10 years after they get a job at least not for schooling.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by Schöneboom

This WSJ article goes into more depth about the law school/job market issue:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119040786780835602.html

Very interesting article. Thanks for the link!

This was quite telling comment...

Originally Posted by Matthew Fox Curl

He's making less money than at his last job and has thought about moving back to his parents' house. "I didn't think three years out I'd be uninsured, thinking it's a great day when a crackhead brings me $500."