Messages Decoded??

Dogfish40 · 02-04-12, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

The radio messages engine I made has the capability of using coded messages. What I haven't made is the decoder for them yet. When I make an enigma style decoder then we can have enigma messages being sent to your sub (and you'll be able to send them also). That will be some time for now as GR2 Editor/Viewer is top priority still

Hey TDW,
I downloaded a working software Enigma Machine. It comes with all versions of the machine and I actually learned how to decode messages.
I haven't learned to encode yet, I'll update with the link when I'm on my other computer. It may be a bit complex to use as a mod (if the owner would oblige) but it is really awesome.
D40
PS; I feel a bit better now. Like Michael13 said, they only need to trace my singal to find me anyway.

Captain_AJ · 02-04-12, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogfish40

Hey TDW,
I downloaded a working software Enigma Machine. It comes with all versions of the machine and I actually learned how to decode messages.
I haven't learned to encode yet, I'll update with the link when I'm on my other computer. It may be a bit complex to use as a mod (if the owner would oblige) but it is really awesome.
D40
PS; I feel a bit better now. Like Michael13 said, they only need to trace my singal to find me anyway.

@ DogFish

Were can I get this software for the enigma machine ?

TheDarkWraith · 02-04-12, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogfish40

Hey TDW,
I downloaded a working software Enigma Machine. It comes with all versions of the machine and I actually learned how to decode messages.
I haven't learned to encode yet, I'll update with the link when I'm on my other computer. It may be a bit complex to use as a mod (if the owner would oblige) but it is really awesome.
D40
PS; I feel a bit better now. Like Michael13 said, they only need to trace my singal to find me anyway.

Does the author provide source code? I can turn Visual Basic, J#, Java, C++, or C# into python code fairly easily

Dogfish40 · 02-05-12, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimuraijn

@ DogFish

Were can I get this software for the enigma machine ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Does the author provide source code? I can turn Visual Basic, J#, Java, C++, or C# into python code fairly easily

I'll have to send it along Monday when I get to work. You'll flip when you see this thing. You can press all the keys, change out the wheels, and you'll have to learn all the settings to use it. It's complex but once you know the keys it becomes easier. I have to hand it to the Poles (they were actually the first to break the code), I don't know how anyone could begin to bresk this thing, there's just too many variables.
D40

ETsd4 · 02-05-12, 12:46 PM

The decoding process takes more than 1 step:

You send this message to BDU:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
23 August 1939 / 1744 / BdU / 84 / ADO PHO
ZRAR PCOI SFJT UAXP
QAYB JJUS ITLJ QGDS
TGVJ PZKO RIRW FRPS
RFFJ OVJM NGBE PCTP
PQWP WXQO UNFH TYJE
BASV
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

(1)
Decoding with the code-sheet, handed out to the commander before the patrol

...results in this =>

23 August 1939 / 1744 / BdU / 84 / ADO PHO
FTUYYREACHEDASSIGNEDPATROLAREAXNOTRAFFICXREQUESTFU RTHERORD
ERSYYUTWOSEVENMOELLERYYFTU

(2)
Formatting Rules and Commonly used Abbreviations of the Kriegsmarine
X = Period
Y = Comma
UD = Question Mark
XX = Colon
YY = Dash/Hyphen/Slant
KK**KK = Parenthesis
J******J = Stress Mark
=>

23 August 1939 / 1744 / BdU / 84 / ADO PHO
FTU/REACHEDASSIGNEDPATROLAREA.NOTRAFFIC.REQUESTFURTHER ORDERS/
UTWOSEVENMOELLER/FTU

(3)
Adding spaces =>

Dogfish40 · 02-05-12, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETsd4

The decoding process takes more than 1 step:

You send this message to BDU:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
23 August 1939 / 1744 / BdU / 84 / ADO PHO
ZRAR PCOI SFJT UAXP
QAYB JJUS ITLJ QGDS
TGVJ PZKO RIRW FRPS
RFFJ OVJM NGBE PCTP
PQWP WXQO UNFH TYJE
BASV
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

(1)
Decoding with the code-sheet, handed out to the commander before the patrol

...results in this =>

23 August 1939 / 1744 / BdU / 84 / ADO PHO
FTUYYREACHEDASSIGNEDPATROLAREAXNOTRAFFICXREQUESTFU RTHERORD
ERSYYUTWOSEVENMOELLERYYFTU

(2)
Formatting Rules and Commonly used Abbreviations of the Kriegsmarine
X = Period
Y = Comma
UD = Question Mark
XX = Colon
YY = Dash/Hyphen/Slant
KK**KK = Parenthesis
J******J = Stress Mark
=>

23 August 1939 / 1744 / BdU / 84 / ADO PHO
FTU/REACHEDASSIGNEDPATROLAREA.NOTRAFFIC.REQUESTFURTHER ORDERS/
UTWOSEVENMOELLER/FTU

(3)
Adding spaces =>

This is one of the sites I found some messages to practice on. I think I decoded this one. There is a codebook that is an additional download which I'll include when I get to my other work laptop. Unless the link is in this message somewhere. I see you have been to the one of the same sites. It's really interesting how the machine technically works. It has like three or four different mechanical levels that need to be addressed (set-up) then you ignore the first cluster of letters and start your decoding. Again, if we could somehow incorporate any level of enigma into the game it would give us Kaleuns something x-tra to do on these long patrols.
D40

Maki4444 · 02-05-12, 05:14 PM

As long as we are talking about coded messages.....can anyone please explain how would I actually use the "Safe communications" ability of my radio man?? In what situations?? What happens if I don't use safe communications??

ETsd4 · 02-05-12, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogfish40

Again, if we could somehow incorporate any level of enigma into the game it would give us Kaleuns something x-tra to do on these long patrols.

Agree.

@Maki4444
I would say everything the radio man sends is safe communication. Assumption: the more he sends in a given interval of time the more increase the probability to get enemy contacts.

blkdimnd · 02-05-12, 08:52 PM

Here a link to one site with an Egnigma Sim.

**Clicky**

He also has a Code Book tool, to make your own key books.

ETsd4 · 02-05-12, 09:11 PM

31 August 1939 / 0358 / U53 / 205 / ABD QWE
JWZL HZIC YZVW PJGX
TBNZ SLAP OGNQ QBXJ
APNG KPLA MGKS BTND
EIWM LZLK BICT OPLK
VKHH FJJO DXJU MEMJ
CWAR ATHB MQKS TFEB
GDXE EBBT ZPBK XMQI
YEQI VIEC MCPU EGND
PKLL IYDX UOFY UFAE
AJOV WCUP NVIZ BSVN
IKHY MRPP IQGM KBKH
BASM JNTT ULPQ QHGW
VRPH GGOG MQER U

Used codepage => http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...49&postcount=9

blkdimnd · 02-05-12, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Does the author provide source code? I can turn Visual Basic, J#, Java, C++, or C# into python code fairly easily

The program from this site is Freeware.
***Clicky***

The author says it's fine to use is software as long as you don't profit from it. (Last Page of linked manual)
Manual

Dogfish40 · 02-06-12, 09:50 AM

I found the dang thing on subsim,
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...do=file&id=530
Enigma simulator and Karle's Enigma codebook tool.
Some of us familier with SH3 have seen this thing. When I start playing with it I can't put it down, it's so dead on.
TDW, do you think there's any chance...?
D40

PS: I this wasn't a letdown seeing as it's been on the subsim site all this time

blkdimnd · 02-06-12, 11:42 AM

The one I linked to earlyer (Here it is again, **Clicky**)
is the newest version (v7.0.2) of the one here in SubSims (v6.2.0). You can also make your own code books.

Also, for TheDarkWaith, here's a link to the source code, **Clicky**
It's written in Visual Basic.

But if you'd like to look at the Enigma Sim author's source code, he just asks you to email him, and give credit where do. (All info is found in the FAQ section.)

Dogfish40 · 02-06-12, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkdimnd

The one I linked to earlyer (Here it is again, **Clicky**)
is the newest version (v7.0.2) of the one here in SubSims (v6.2.0). You can also make your own code books.

Also, for TheDarkWaith, here's a link to the source code, **Clicky**
It's written in Visual Basic.

But if you'd like to look at the Enigma Sim author's source code, he just asks you to email him, and give credit where do. (All info is found in the FAQ section.)

This is so cool. Even if we could get a simplified version it would make communication with the BDU or whomever much more lifelike. I still haven't figured out how to encode yet so I guess that's my next item on my list.
BlackDiamond, Thanks so much for getting this together.
D40

blkdimnd · 02-06-12, 12:53 PM

No problem.
Wish I could help you code it, but I have no clue how.
I'm no programmer, I got a D in programming in College.
(It's why I fly planes now, much more fun.)

I'm just good at finding info. (Espacially when google is involed

)

02-05-12, 08:52 PM	#9
blkdimnd Planesman Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vermont, USA Posts: 186 Downloads: 492 Uploads: 0	Enigma Sim Here a link to one site with an Egnigma Sim. Clicky He also has a Code Book tool, to make your own key books.

02-06-12, 09:50 AM	#12
Dogfish40 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: LA Area, Central coast, California Posts: 1,023 Downloads: 827 Uploads: 0	I found the dang thing on subsim, http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...do=file&id=530 Enigma simulator and Karle's Enigma codebook tool. Some of us familier with SH3 have seen this thing. When I start playing with it I can't put it down, it's so dead on. TDW, do you think there's any chance...? D40 PS: I this wasn't a letdown seeing as it's been on the subsim site all this time __________________ *Dogfish40*

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02-05-12, 12:46 PM	#5
ETsd4 中国水兵 Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 278 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	The decoding process takes more than 1 step: You send this message to BDU: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 23 August 1939 / 1744 / BdU / 84 / ADO PHO ZRAR PCOI SFJT UAXP QAYB JJUS ITLJ QGDS TGVJ PZKO RIRW FRPS RFFJ OVJM NGBE PCTP PQWP WXQO UNFH TYJE BASV xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (1) Decoding with the code-sheet, handed out to the commander before the patrol ...results in this => 23 August 1939 / 1744 / BdU / 84 / ADO PHO FTUYYREACHEDASSIGNEDPATROLAREAXNOTRAFFICXREQUESTFU RTHERORD ERSYYUTWOSEVENMOELLERYYFTU (2) Formatting Rules and Commonly used Abbreviations of the Kriegsmarine X = Period Y = Comma UD = Question Mark XX = Colon YY = Dash/Hyphen/Slant KKKK = Parenthesis J****J = Stress Mark => 23 August 1939 / 1744 / BdU / 84 / ADO PHO FTU/REACHEDASSIGNEDPATROLAREA.NOTRAFFIC.REQUESTFURTHER ORDERS/ UTWOSEVENMOELLER/FTU (3) Adding spaces =>

02-05-12, 05:14 PM	#7
Maki4444 Sparky Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Croatia Posts: 152 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	As long as we are talking about coded messages.....can anyone please explain how would I actually use the "Safe communications" ability of my radio man?? In what situations?? What happens if I don't use safe communications??

02-05-12, 09:11 PM	#10
ETsd4 中国水兵 Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 278 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	31 August 1939 / 0358 / U53 / 205 / ABD QWE JWZL HZIC YZVW PJGX TBNZ SLAP OGNQ QBXJ APNG KPLA MGKS BTND EIWM LZLK BICT OPLK VKHH FJJO DXJU MEMJ CWAR ATHB MQKS TFEB GDXE EBBT ZPBK XMQI YEQI VIEC MCPU EGND PKLL IYDX UOFY UFAE AJOV WCUP NVIZ BSVN IKHY MRPP IQGM KBKH BASM JNTT ULPQ QHGW VRPH GGOG MQER U Used codepage => http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...49&postcount=9

02-06-12, 11:42 AM	#13
blkdimnd Planesman Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vermont, USA Posts: 186 Downloads: 492 Uploads: 0	The one I linked to earlyer (Here it is again, Clicky) is the newest version (v7.0.2) of the one here in SubSims (v6.2.0). You can also make your own code books. Also, for TheDarkWaith, here's a link to the source code, Clicky It's written in Visual Basic. But if you'd like to look at the Enigma Sim author's source code, he just asks you to email him, and give credit where do. (All info is found in the FAQ section.)

02-06-12, 12:53 PM	#15
blkdimnd Planesman Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vermont, USA Posts: 186 Downloads: 492 Uploads: 0	No problem. Wish I could help you code it, but I have no clue how. I'm no programmer, I got a D in programming in College. (It's why I fly planes now, much more fun.) I'm just good at finding info. (Espacially when google is involed )