Hillary Clinton declares 'gay rights are human rights'

Takeda Shingen · 12-07-11, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

While in SFO and on Market Street about 8 years ago, I had the unfortunate experience of seeing one of these "homo pride" parades going by. I saw public nudity, and some other perversions I wouldn't post here. Ever heard of the "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence"? Yuck! Simply put, I don't think Irish Catholics in their cultural heritage parades and these gay fests are comparable.

If you want to go that route, I would ask you where your outrage is over, say, Mardi Gras and it's parent, Carnival?

Sea Demon · 12-07-11, 04:44 PM

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If you want to go that route, I would ask you where your outrage is over, say, Mardi Gras and it's parent, Carnival?

We can go that route. I do have a problem with any public sexual indecency displayed at Mardi Gras and Carnival as well. Get a room. But like someone else pointed out, there's a far cry from flashing some T&A for beads and two gross looking homos conducting oral sex on the sidewalk, or the other thing that grossed me out at the Market street display......public group m*****bation.

Morts · 12-07-11, 04:51 PM

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two gross looking homos

A gay marriage thread is never complete without some good old fashioned bigotry

It really saddens me that there are still people as closed minded as you around.

Sea Demon · 12-07-11, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Morts

A gay marriage thread is never complete without some good old fashioned bigotry

It really saddens me that there are still people as closed minded as you around.

I invite you to look up "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence" and see what I mean. That's the type I'm talking about. Yes, they are gross looking. And yes, they do gross things. And it is not being "open minded" to be accepting of them and their public displays. It's insanity.

Anybody normal, and with a vein of sanity wouldn't let their kids near this stuff or consider it normal. I'm proud to be considered "closed minded" if I have to accept crap like this as "normal".

Morts · 12-07-11, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

I invite you to look up "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence" and see what I mean. Yes, they are gross looking. And yes, they do gross things. And it is not being "open minded" to be accepting of them and their public displays. It's insanity.

Anybody normal, and with a vein of sanity wouldn't let their kids near this stuff or consider it normal. I'm proud to be "closed minded" if I have to accept crap like this as "normal".

Im not talking about that, im talking about the objecting to gay marriage part a page or two back.

mookiemookie · 12-07-11, 05:03 PM

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Im not talking about that, im talking about the objecting to gay marriage part a page or two back.

But all gays are sexual deviant perverts on parade. Didn't you know that? That's why we can't allow them to marry.

They're sexual deviants and because of that, we need to deny them the chance to express their love, stability and monogamy in a committed relationship with the partner of their choice. It's a bulletproof argument.

Sea Demon · 12-07-11, 05:08 PM

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But all gays are sexual deviant perverts on parade. Didn't you know that? That's why we can't allow them to marry.

They're sexual deviants and because of that, we need to deny them the chance to express their love, stability and monogamy in a committed relationship with the partner of their choice. It's a bulletproof argument.

No, they can express their love all they want. They can be monogamous if they want. They can be with a partner of their choosing. And if they wish to be married, they can......if they play by the rules and do it with someone of the opposite sex.

geetrue · 12-07-11, 06:36 PM

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They're sexual deviants and because of that, we need to deny them the chance to express their love, stability and monogamy in a committed relationship with the partner of their choice. It's a bulletproof argument.

You do realize that some states even let gays adopt children?

The state of California nows requires teaching of gay friendly in 1st to 12th grade by the teachers even if they are not.

It's now a law ...

It's just a matter of time, but this is sooner than I thought.

I wonder if you could get amnesty fom another country and be allowed to live in America based on being gay?

Sea Demon · 12-07-11, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Morts

Im not talking about that, im talking about the objecting to gay marriage part a page or two back.

Oh well. Too bad. There are millions of people who just don't want marriage redefined in the name of same sex orientation or any other arrangements. Get over it.

12-07-11, 08:30 PM

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A gay marriage thread is never complete without some good old fashioned bigotry

I wonder if Demons outrage over gays is the usual case, he is really a poof but is still feeling Haggard about it?

Takeda Shingen · 12-07-11, 08:38 PM

That's way over the line.

Takeda Shingen · 12-07-11, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

We can go that route. I do have a problem with any public sexual indecency displayed at Mardi Gras and Carnival as well. Get a room. But like someone else pointed out, there's a far cry from flashing some T&A for beads and two gross looking homos conducting oral sex on the sidewalk, or the other thing that grossed me out at the Market street display......public group m*****bation.

I've seen full coitus happening on the streets at Mardi Gras; much more at Carnival. Sorry, but it is just as crass as what you described. The homosexual community does not have a monopoly on indecency.

August · 12-07-11, 06:34 PM

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The homosexual community does not have a monopoly on indecency.

No but their indecency is often deliberately flaunted in situations where such behavior is clearly inappropriate. Madigras and Carnival, especially at night, are adult events. I expect to see drunken people doing such things. Saint Patricks day parades on the other hand are family events where sex, regardless of orientation, is out of place.

Sailor Steve · 12-07-11, 06:40 PM

Probably true, and the offending behavior, if it violates laws, should be punished. Like the comparisons between marijuana and alcohol, the comparison itself is fruitless, since it's the behavior that needs to be contained. And like those comparisons, it appears to me that comparisons are being made here for the purpose of finger-pointing and generalization.

Does the public display of offensive behavior mean that all gays are evil? Or does the belief that all gays are evil lead to looking for said behavior and singling it out? For some here it would seem so.

12-07-11, 06:55 PM

One of my best friends was Bi-sexual way back when it was NOT something you talked about.
He was a tiny bit 'fruity' in dress and presentation and I had many good fights in bad Bars standing up for him.
He died while I was in the Service and I could not carry him to his Grave.
Which I still regret to this day!
A very good female friend now is Bi-sexual and VERY open about it.
Often wanting to show me pictures of her and her friends.
(Sometimes I do look at them)

I don't judge them by thier sexuality. Never have, never will.
They proved to me that they were and are true friends.
They deserve all the rights I have no matter what.

To deny them thier rights in anyway opens the door to deny me my rights.
As a Biker? I know all about being denied rights and the fight you must make to insure you are not denied them.

I laugh at the so called 'parades'.
To judge all other-sexuals by those things is to judge all (Insert Race) by any Gang activity.

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Probably true, and the offending behavior, if it violates laws, should be punished. Like the comparisons between marijuana and alcohol, the comparison itself is fruitless, since it's the behavior that needs to be contained. And like those comparisons, it appears to me that comparisons are being made here for the purpose of finger-pointing and generalization. Does the public display of offensive behavior mean that all gays are evil? Or does the belief that all gays are evil lead to looking for said behavior and singling it out? For some here it would seem so. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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12-07-11, 08:38 PM	#11
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	That's way over the line.

12-07-11, 06:55 PM	#15
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	One of my best friends was Bi-sexual way back when it was NOT something you talked about. He was a tiny bit 'fruity' in dress and presentation and I had many good fights in bad Bars standing up for him. He died while I was in the Service and I could not carry him to his Grave. Which I still regret to this day! A very good female friend now is Bi-sexual and VERY open about it. Often wanting to show me pictures of her and her friends. (Sometimes I do look at them) I don't judge them by thier sexuality. Never have, never will. They proved to me that they were and are true friends. They deserve all the rights I have no matter what. To deny them thier rights in anyway opens the door to deny me my rights. As a Biker? I know all about being denied rights and the fight you must make to insure you are not denied them. I laugh at the so called 'parades'. To judge all other-sexuals by those things is to judge all (Insert Race) by any Gang activity.