Russian army stops buying Kalashnikov rifles

09-30-11, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MH

AK is good basic rifle but its unsuited for modern warfare.

It WILL kill you very quickly have no doubts!!
That's the bottom line in conflicts.
If it was not good in Modern Warfare?
Why are many of our Service Members being killed or wounded with it to this day?

Jimbuna · 09-30-11, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

It WILL kill you very quickly have no doubts!!
That's the bottom line in conflicts.
If it was not good in Modern Warfare?
Why are many of our Service Members being killed or wounded with it to this day?

Good point...I was trained on the MP5 and many 'experts' claimed it was a poor weapon....not many survived its attack!!

09-30-11, 05:26 PM

Being on the run and in a hostile enviroment?
I'd take the AK over the M-16 every time!
I was well trained and used both at times.
To this day I can tell which weapon is fireing at me!
Being on the wrong end of an AK is something you do not forget.

jumpy · 09-30-11, 05:27 PM

^^

CaptainMattJ. · 09-30-11, 05:39 PM

there is a reliable replacement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-74

or my favorite:

MH · 09-30-11, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

It WILL kill you very quickly have no doubts!!
That's the bottom line in conflicts.
If it was not good in Modern Warfare?
Why are many of our Service Members being killed or wounded with it to this day?

Lets just say that IDF current philosophy is combination of advanced training in urban warfare with conventional one.
This makes certain weapons more suited for the purpose than other.
While all weapons kill the purpose is to give individual a solder an edge on the opponent in reliability accuracy and ease of aim in combat condition.
Keeping some weapons "zeroed in" in the field can be real pain because not designed to use anything besides iron sights.
M-16 flat top was a partial solution to this for example allowing integration of some gadgets.
AK is crap when it comes to using it with anything besides iron sights besides the fact that its bulky and kicky and un accurate.

Try to take all the toys from your solders and im sure it will increase casualties.

Oh real men use AK lol

09-30-11, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MH

Lets just say that IDF current philosophy is combination of advanced training in urban warfare with conventional one.
This makes certain weapons more suited for the purpose than other.
While all weapons kill the purpose is to give individual a solder an edge on the opponent in reliability accuracy and ease of aim in combat condition.
Keeping some weapons "zeroed in" in the field can be real pain because not designed to use anything besides iron sights.
M-16 flat top was a partial solution to this for example.
AK is crap when it comes to using it with anything besides iron sights besides the fact that its bulky and kicky and un accurate.

Try to take all the toys from your solders and im sure it will increase casualties.

Oh real men use AK lol

What is decided as the best weapon by studies and tests does not match the infield usage in a real combat situation as our Soldiers face today.

You have an under supplied Enemy, on the run, hideing in dirt!
But he is causeing heavy damages to better equipped Troops.
That don't sound like a bad weapon to me!
If I can kill you with a rock? I win.

MH · 09-30-11, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

What is decided as the best weapon by studies and tests does not match the infield usage in a real combat situation as our Soldiers face today.
.

I can speak for IDF where most studies are done in the field.
I'm not gun freak but i have shot lots cases of different ammo in many different ways in my life and i'm "jealous" of all the new stuff solders get now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

You have an under supplied Enemy, on the run, hiding in dirt!
But he is causing heavy damages to better equipped Troops.
That don't sound like a bad weapon to me!
If I can kill you with a rock? I win.

Sure...question is if all the new gadgets help or not.

09-30-11, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MH

question is if all the new gadgets help or not.

Sure they help. That is a fact.
But a determined enemy, even with older weapons, can and do cause sever damage to invadeing forces.
To the point that said forces sometime withdrawal from the field of battle.

Any battle one engages in has several factors.
The most important is how many casualties can you sustain and for how long.

If I can out last you on that count even if I only use rocks?
You will withdrawal. I win the engagement.

So in todays world the AK is still the weapon of choice of rock throwers.

09-30-11, 05:27 PM	#4
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	^^ __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

09-30-11, 05:39 PM	#5
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	there is a reliable replacement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-74 or my favorite: __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

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09-30-11, 05:26 PM	#3
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Being on the run and in a hostile enviroment? I'd take the AK over the M-16 every time! I was well trained and used both at times. To this day I can tell which weapon is fireing at me! Being on the wrong end of an AK is something you do not forget.