Gay Caveman? Ok, now i've heard it all!!

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Skybird

When was your so-called "quote" said that way by anybody? As far as I remember, and put it myself , this ^ I have never said, nor anyone else.

People really have weak points only to make, if they need to put lies into other peoples' mouth in order to get these points across.

Getroffene Hunde bellen, eh?
Was this a quote? Sorry, you must read another subsim forum, I didn't see the quote tag in my post. Please don't think that my statement was exclusively addressed to you. Besides: claiming irony for oneself and crying when another guy uses a hyperbole: that's weak.

Originally Posted by Skybird

Quote the full context of that posting and note the irony I was using in frustration over there.

It seems that Señor DarkFish had just quoted one of the things which I also had in my mind. To do you a favour, here's the whole quote:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...66&postcount=7

Originally Posted by Skybird

This is another opportunity to press it into people's wanted, demanded, almost ordered and certainly politically corrected opinion that there is no difference between homosexual and heterosexual people, and both are of the same sociological importance for a sociaty and culture, and have the very same biological meaning.

Seen that way we only survived until today and got that far only because the Apemen who were our forfathers had no capoability to discuss this concept, and could only say Oh, Uh, Ah and Eh. And procreate - most likely with partners of not the same sex, considering that the story of mankind did not end with them.

no difference between homosexual and heterosexual people? - Yup, only in sexual preferences
same sociological importance for society and culture? Yup, as cultural and sociological importance depends on individuals, not (inhomogeneous ) groups
very same biological meaning? Not if you only think in terms of procreation. However I refuse to see humans as insects or breeding machines whose only purpose is the upkeep of the species. Sorry, I cannot follow the rational, determenistic way, as I have a brain, a mind and emotions and can't follow only instincs or whatever way that the evolution has planned for humanity.

Yes, and in the second paragraph I can read the fear that we wouldn't be here if our forefathers participated in homosexual activities.
Not only in this statement, but also in others, you reveal a very particular german Angst that we are all going to die out.

Originally Posted by Skybird

WhatI an others pointed out repeatedly, is two things. That a society cannot survive if it does not reproduce and makes babies, and thus a civilisation based on the principle of homosexuality being the norm will die out, and that this shall not mean not to tolerate homosexuals today. [...] I explicitly defended homosexuals from getting discirminated. I just insist on them not beign seen as a bioliogical norm representing the design mainstream of evolution. And the sociual fucntion of families for a society making them more important, beyoind comparsion, for a society, then singles like me, or homosexual couples.

Where are all these societies based on homosexuality - or did they all already die out?
Hell, just following the strange assumption that people promote or advertise homosexuality: would it change the percentage of gays? Or just the other way around: do societies that oppress homos have a lower percentage of them? Maybe, but it is only because in countries like Iran a certain amount of gays is at the crane and not in the closet.

What about people who procreated before they discovered their homosexuality? Or lesbians who get impregnated? Are they better than others like me and my Frau who decided not to breed? What about working gays who pay taxes in comparision to families who live off welfare? Is breeding good as a self-purpose?

Originally Posted by Skybird

(quoting Frau Kaleun's post)
+1 ^this.

Funny that you give thumbs up to an example from societies where homos had a special, even privileged, status, as this seems that something you (plural 'you' like in 'y'all') don't want to give them. Besides, I never heard of anybody sane from the gay community demanding special rights.