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Feuer Frei! 04-07-11 07:43 AM

Gay Caveman? Ok, now i've heard it all!!
 
Five thousand years after he died, the first known gay caveman has emerged into the daylight.
According to archaeologists, the way he was buried suggests that he was of a different sexual persuasion.
The skeleton of the late Stone Age man, unearthed during excavations in the Czech Republic, is said to date back to between 2900 and 2500 BC.

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During that period, men were traditionally buried lying on their right side with the head pointing towards the west; women on their left side with the head facing east.
In this case, the man was on his left side with his head facing west. Another clue is that men tended to be interred with weapons, hammers and flint knives as well as several portions of food and drink to accompany them to the other side.
Women would be buried with necklaces made from teeth, pets, and copper earrings, as well as domestic jugs and an egg-shaped pot placed near the feet.
The ‘gay caveman’ was buried with household jugs, and no weapons.
Archaeologists do not think it was a mistake or coincidence given the importance attached to funerals during the period, known as the Corded Ware era because of the pottery it produced.
From history and ethnology, we know that people from this period took funeral rites very seriously so it is highly unlikely that this positioning was a mistake,’ said lead researcher Kamila Remisova Vesinova.
‘Far more likely is that he was a man with a different sexual orientation, homosexual or transvestite. What we see here does not add up to traditional Corded Ware cultural norms.’
An oval, egg-shaped container usually associated with female burials was also found at the feet of the skeleton.

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DarkFish 04-07-11 08:25 AM

So even in prehistoric times they accepted gays. Something that nowadays many, mainly religious, people can't seem to do:shifty: Oh lord, praise the Abrahamic religions...

Penguin 04-07-11 08:28 AM

Oh no, this can't be true. As certain users here have repeatedly stated: we would have all died out, if our ancestors had tolerated homosexuality!:88)

Another possible explanation for the grave goods could be that the guy was something like a healer or a shaman, this would explain the pottery.

mookiemookie 04-07-11 08:34 AM

Take it with a grain of salt - this is the Daily Fail after all.

Skybird 04-07-11 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1637716)
Oh no, this can't be true. As certain users here have repeatedly stated: we would have all died out, if our ancestors had tolerated homosexuality!:88)

When was your so-called "quote" said that way by anybody? As far as I remember, and put it myself , this ^ I have never said, nor anyone else.

People really have weak points only to make, if they need to put lies into other peoples' mouth in order to get these points across.

DarkFish 04-07-11 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1637716)
Oh no, this can't be true. As certain users here have repeatedly stated: we would have all died out, if our ancestors had tolerated homosexuality!:88)

:har:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1637717)
Take it with a grain of salt - this is the Daily Fail after all.

The telegraph has a separate arcticle: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...man-found.html

Which also goes in on the possibility of it being a shaman as Penguin says

DarkFish 04-07-11 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1637721)
When was your so-called "quote" said that way by anybody? As far as I remember, and put it myself , this ^ I have never said, nor anyone else.

People really have weak points only to make, if they need to put lies into other peoples' mouth in order to get their own weak points across.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1631366)
Seen that way we only survived until today and got that far only because the Apemen who were our forfathers had no capoability to discuss this concept, and could only say Oh, Uh, Ah and Eh. And procreate - most likely with partners of not the same sex, considering that the story of mankind did not end with them.

Well, it seems they did have the capability to discuss this concept..... And it seems they "tried to procreate" with same-sex partners as well as that is what gays do.

Herr-Berbunch 04-07-11 08:49 AM

...or just somebody got their left/right mixed up - I'm sure we all still do it occasionally!

...or it may have had some x-gender anomolies featuring a male bone structure and some more feminine external features (shall we call them Dowly's favourites?) :D

frau kaleun 04-07-11 08:51 AM

The acceptance of "alternate" or androgynous gender identity and behavior is a known phenomenon in some very old cultural traditions (cf the tradition and recognition of "Two Spirit" individuals in some Native American and First Nations peoples). I see no reason to believe that its existence in historical times down to the present is not a continuation of a tradition that goes well back into prehistory. So, um, this? Not very surprising, really.

AVGWarhawk 04-07-11 09:08 AM

Perhaps he/she was a hermaphrodite :hmmm: Perhaps this individual tended toward the the female side of things. :hmmm:

Skybird 04-07-11 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFish (Post 1637723)
Well, it seems they did have the capability to discuss this concept..... And it seems they "tried to procreate" with same-sex partners as well as that is what gays do.

Try to be a smartass again?

Quote the full context of that posting and note the irony I was using in frustration over there.

WhatI an others pointed out repeatedly, is two things. That a society cannot survive if it does not reproduce and makes babies, and thus a civilisation based on the principle of homosexuality being the norm will die out, and that this shall not mean not to tolerate homosexuals today. Will you please find these quotes too, you master-quoter? I explicitly defended homosexuals from getting discirminated. I just insist on them not beign seen as a bioliogical norm representing the design mainstream of evolution. And the sociual fucntion of families for a society making them more important, beyoind comparsion, for a society, then singles like me, or homosexual couples.

Now go on, twist and turn words again to bring over your "point". Its gettin g tiresome.

:nope: :damn:

Tolerance for the small number of deviations in a biological norm, whether it be albionis of homosxual individuals,m is one thing. They way a population developes by biological terms of evolution'S design of reproduction, is somethign different. I am not dumb enough it seems to understand what is so difficult in this to understand it. :dead:

Skybird 04-07-11 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frau kaleun (Post 1637727)
The acceptance of "alternate" or androgynous gender identity and behavior is a known phenomenon in some very old cultural traditions (cf the tradition and recognition of "Two Spirit" individuals in some Native American and First Nations peoples). I see no reason to believe that its existence in historical times down to the present is not a continuation of a tradition that goes well back into prehistory. So, um, this? Not very surprising, really.

+1 ^this.

Now I just wait for someone coming with gay apes and birds again - iognoring that wile these are existent, they do not represent the norm and way of biological survival of a species.

AVGWarhawk 04-07-11 09:44 AM

Quote:

they do not represent the norm and way of biological survival of a species.
True, a male dog humping my leg is not the norm and or way of bilogical survival of the canine. :DL

gimpy117 04-07-11 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1637716)
Oh no, this can't be true. As certain users here have repeatedly stated: we would have all died out, if our ancestors had tolerated homosexuality!:88)

I have a lesbian friend...and I can tell you for a fact shes not completely into women. so if that true today im sure it was then. I would think they would continue the species if necessary.

onelifecrisis 04-07-11 10:16 AM

If he was gay, and if there is an afterlife, then I'm sure he's thrilled at all this attention he's getting for being different! :haha:


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