Red Dawn - Now with added DPRK

Raptor1 · 03-16-11, 10:57 AM

Eh, I enjoyed the original, it wasn't terribly good, but it wasn't all that bad either.

Replacing the Soviets with the Chinese was, in my opinion, a bad idea to start with, but North Koreans? That's just ridiculous.

BTW, this seems to be the exact same thing that happened to Homefront, as it was originally supposed to have Chinese bad guys too.

EDIT: Ah, just noticed that's stated in the article. Should really read the whole thing first.

Growler · 03-16-11, 11:31 AM

Realities like force projection never did matter much in Hollywood.

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It's all about maintaining access to the Asian superpower's lucrative box office.

^^There's your bottom-line reality.

Kaye T. Bai · 03-16-11, 12:14 PM

Red Dawn 3: Liberia invades Cambodia!

TLAM Strike · 03-16-11, 12:22 PM

I'm surprised that Hollywood to get a bigger audience didn't make it a movie about evil American troops invading some tiny crappy communist dictatorship and the brave partisans who rise up to fight them.

gimpy117 · 03-16-11, 12:43 PM

great, now republicans can watch a movie that reinforces their paranoia that socialists are everywhere.

Gargamel · 03-16-11, 12:58 PM

Funny story, back in grade school, my buddy had a sleep over for his 10th birthday party, and he had invited about 12 of us. We had gone to the video store to pick up some movies, and apparently one of us tossed Red Dawn into the pile without his mom noticing.

Later that night, we popped that one in. Got about half way through before she walked in.

I remember the lot of us being regarded as the coolest kids in school cause we got to see most of the flick. "DID YOU SEE THAT GUY SHOOT THE TEACHER!?!? OMG LOLOLOLZ!"

Had to wait a few years before I got a chance to finish the movie..

Ducimus · 03-16-11, 01:32 PM

Ok, this thought ive had for some time that i'm just now voicing is probably going to get me flamed 9 ways to sunday but.....

Has anyone else found the whole "Red dawn" cliche a bit on the .. uhh. i don't know. i can't find the word for it. Hypocrisy maybe?

The thing is, we as a culture, fancy ourselves as the oppressed freedom fighters. We like to root for the underdog going against the giant juggernaught. David and Gloiath, insert whatever metaphore you want here. I think it goes back to our colonial roots against the British. Fighting a gurella war against a large occuping power. And boy oh boy, do we like to portray ourselve as all these things in the movies or watch them in some form or another don't we?

"Wolverines!!!!"

I can't be the only one who's paused for a moment, and thought that gurella freedom fighters of the oppressed, is what some of the ahh.. groups of ragheads in the middle east think of themselves as? I guess the problem i have with portrayals like red dawn, is we are NOT the little guy. We haven't been for some time, and the irony is, in portrays like that, we cast ourselves in the same role as the groups in the middle east that we're currently fighting, at least by their view. I enjoy the movie and the storyline of an occupied US (i will be buying homefront eventually. :P ), but the ignorance and stupidty of them is not lost on me.

August · 03-16-11, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

great, now republicans can watch a movie that reinforces their paranoia that socialists are everywhere.

Nah, to be that dumb they'd have to be Democrats...

RickC Sniper · 03-16-11, 02:55 PM

The USSR was such a cool enemy. Sigh.

03-16-11, 10:57 AM	#1
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Eh, I enjoyed the original, it wasn't terribly good, but it wasn't all that bad either. Replacing the Soviets with the Chinese was, in my opinion, a bad idea to start with, but North Koreans? That's just ridiculous. BTW, this seems to be the exact same thing that happened to Homefront, as it was originally supposed to have Chinese bad guys too. EDIT: Ah, just noticed that's stated in the article. Should really read the whole thing first. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

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TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	I'm surprised that Hollywood to get a bigger audience didn't make it a movie about evil American troops invading some tiny crappy communist dictatorship and the brave partisans who rise up to fight them. __________________

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gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	great, now republicans can watch a movie that reinforces their paranoia that socialists are everywhere. __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

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Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Funny story, back in grade school, my buddy had a sleep over for his 10th birthday party, and he had invited about 12 of us. We had gone to the video store to pick up some movies, and apparently one of us tossed Red Dawn into the pile without his mom noticing. Later that night, we popped that one in. Got about half way through before she walked in. I remember the lot of us being regarded as the coolest kids in school cause we got to see most of the flick. "DID YOU SEE THAT GUY SHOOT THE TEACHER!?!? OMG LOLOLOLZ!" Had to wait a few years before I got a chance to finish the movie.. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

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RickC Sniper Undetectable Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,221 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	The USSR was such a cool enemy. Sigh. __________________ Support Subsim http://www.subsim.com/store.html

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Kaye T. Bai Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster Posts: 585 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Red Dawn 3: Liberia invades Cambodia!

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Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Ok, this thought ive had for some time that i'm just now voicing is probably going to get me flamed 9 ways to sunday but..... Has anyone else found the whole "Red dawn" cliche a bit on the .. uhh. i don't know. i can't find the word for it. Hypocrisy maybe? The thing is, we as a culture, fancy ourselves as the oppressed freedom fighters. We like to root for the underdog going against the giant juggernaught. David and Gloiath, insert whatever metaphore you want here. I think it goes back to our colonial roots against the British. Fighting a gurella war against a large occuping power. And boy oh boy, do we like to portray ourselve as all these things in the movies or watch them in some form or another don't we? "Wolverines!!!!" I can't be the only one who's paused for a moment, and thought that gurella freedom fighters of the oppressed, is what some of the ahh.. groups of ragheads in the middle east think of themselves as? I guess the problem i have with portrayals like red dawn, is we are NOT the little guy. We haven't been for some time, and the irony is, in portrays like that, we cast ourselves in the same role as the groups in the middle east that we're currently fighting, at least by their view. I enjoy the movie and the storyline of an occupied US (i will be buying homefront eventually. :P ), but the ignorance and stupidty of them is not lost on me.

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