Egypt-Inspired Protests Spread to Libya

[Rockstar]

And in our own backyard someone named Amir Abdel Malik-Ali just a month ago after giving a speech at the Muslim Student Association at UCLA. When he ended it he asked everyone to rise and join him in the pledge of allegiance. Not the one you think though.

I wonder how long it will take before these freedom loving students begin shouting their slogans and exercise their 'rights' for self determination here in the US?

Allah is my Lord
Islam is my Life
The Quran is my guide
The Sunna is my practice
Jihad is my Spirit
Righteousness is my Character
Paradise is my Goal
I enjoin what is Right
I forbid what is Wrong
I will fight against Oppression
And I will die to establish Islam

I wonder how long it will take before these freedom loving students begin shouting their slogans and exercise their 'rights' for self determination here in the US?

Will it take longer than the scary judge rewriting the constitution or longer than the global caliphate which is hiding under the bed?

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Will it take longer than the scary judge rewriting the constitution or longer than the global caliphate which is hiding under the bed?

I have no doubt it will take much less time over there.

<edit> Whaddya know another U.S. allied country Bahrain. Host to the U.S. Navy's fifth fleet the counter balance to Iran. I suppose you'll tell me more poor students are fighting for self determination freedom and democracy there too. I must admit maybe some are but they are nothing more than patsies.

<edit> Upon futher investigation these protesters are a majoity Shia Muslim and they call themselves pro-democracy freedom fighters too! imagine that. Western media loves that crap so do the people they fall head over heels for those kinds of buzz words. When actually what they are fighting for is for the king to step down so they can live under a Shia Iman instead and probably boot the 5th fleet out.

http://www.shiitenews.com/index.php?...orld&Itemid=70

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wow whoda thunk it , people are objecting to minority rule where absolute power is placed with one family and Rockstar condemned it then had to look it up to find out who his allies were.

One easy lesson, if you don't want to be associated with despots who keep their people down and don't want to face the natural consequences when they are eventually overthrown then don't choose dodgy regimes as allies

BTW Rockstar, if these people are shia does that mean they are the ones who are going to form a global caliphate or do you think it will be the sunnis..... or do you think?

[Rockstar]

wow whoda thunk it , people are objecting to minority rule where absolute power is placed with one family and Rockstar condemned it then had to look it up to find out who his allies were.

One easy lesson, if you don't want to be associated with despots who keep their people down and don't want to face the natural consequences when they are eventually overthrown then don't choose dodgy regimes as allies

You hear in western media of students fighting for democracy self determination and get this, against government corruption. Do you know what a corrupt government is to a Muslim?

"One of the forms of jihad in Islam is jihad against evil and corruption within [the Islamic lands]. This jihad is crucial in order to protect society from collapse, disintegration, and perdition — for Muslim society has unique characteristics, and if these are lost, forgotten or destroyed, there will be no Muslim society."

Laws of Jihad by Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi

Kings, Dictators, Queens, Presidents, whether they be Sunni or Shia those leaders who have associations with infidels such as you and I are corrupt and must be dealt with. That is what we are seeing happen before us today. I hope you understand your perception of government corruption is so very far from theirs.

BTW Rockstar, if these people are shia does that mean they are the ones who are going to form a global caliphate or do you think it will be the sunnis..... or do you think?

Well Tribesman, the Sahib Al-Zaman is established doctrine for both Sunni and Shi’a Muslims. Though Sunni beliefs differ slightly in some areas, one in particular being I think some Sunni believe Caliph will speak Hebrew.


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[Jimbuna]

...and so it continues

Kings, Dictators, Queens, Presidents, whether they be Sunni or Shia those leaders who have associations with infidels such as you and I are corrupt and must be dealt with.

Yet they are also protesting against theocracies and anti western governments which makes your point pointless.

Do you know what a corrupt government is to a Muslim?

what a muslim thinks is irrelevant, you can put up a quote from a christian and it would be equally as meaningless.

Well Tribesman, the Sahib Al-Zaman is established doctrine for both Sunni and Shi’a Muslims.

So what?
How can they make this global caliphate you are so worried about when they spend their time fighting each other like they always have?

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Upon futher investigation these protesters are a majoity Shia Muslim and they call themselves pro-democracy freedom fighters too! imagine that. Western media loves that crap so do the people they fall head over heels for those kinds of buzz words. When actually what they are fighting for is for the king to step down so they can live under a Shia Iman instead and probably boot the 5th fleet out.

They say they are pro-democracy, so they are anti-democracy. That sounds really logical

You have got to be kidding me, what a muslim thinks is irrelevant?

What a muslim thinks is pretty irrelevant.

This is what those beloved freedom fighters brought in the name of democracy and self-determination.

Indeed, this is what they brought in........
"the revolution belongs to all Egyptians, both Muslim and Christian."
damn, you are supposed to kill the christians and eat their babies.

"He praised the army's announcement of support for democracy, elections, and the establishment of a committee for changing the constitution."
How dare he say that? democracy and elections, a new constitution approved by the people...the tyrant

"He asked the army to disband the new government and to free the political prisoners"
Bloody hell he wants the new temporary military junta to end and wants political prisoners freed...this man is Hitler Stalin and Ghengis Khan all rolled into one with a side order of Pol pot.

Do you think that perhaps your link you provided should sort of in some way back up your points you are trying to make?

Not only is this a political goal but it is also a very religious one every muslim looks forward too.

Wow

Nations are divided all the time look at the U.S. yet it functions, barely.

And now for something completely different

[Castout]

The only way dictatorship could be sustained is by it being the obstruction to societal progress at the expense of greater good as well as the nation and human development. Even this will only buy them time. In the end less harsh dictatorship will extend some more time but dictatorships also change the dictators unfortunately making them worse over time and out of touch with reality and humanity in effect fastening the time of their downfall by popular protest. All in all dictatorship is never a sustainable form of governing.

Man's nature requirements demands personal freedom and development based on fair and just rule of law. Neither of which could be delivered by a dictatorship.

Thus even regime like North Korea could not be expected to stand forever.

Every dictatorship will collapse either by internal factor or infighting or the regime is weakening the state or society itself so much that it attracts a much stronger nation to naturalize it.

The fallacy of reasoning usually made by dictators is that they are somehow so important so irreplaceable that their totalitarian rule would benefit the majority of a nation. It's a false logic because NO LEADER is so talented as being irreplaceable UNLESS he's consciously and systematically trying to make it so either by propaganda or state endorsed lies or real efforts by impeding societal development or both. In short we are not so radically different from one another INSIDE. This may take insight or empathy to realize, something that an egoistical person unable to come to realization. In other words dictators are living in a dream world their egoistical mind project. And because of their lofty egoistical delusion dictators are vulnerable to treat their people however they like, discarding the fact that each is a person JUST LIKE himself.

[Rockstar]

suit yourself

by the way last post I win