What scope mod do you use

[THE_MASK]

Manos Scopes-SH5 (for TDW's Gui)

[Zedi]

Old thread...

Speaking about scopes, I messed up my files and Im not sure anymore which dds is for attack scope and which one is for observation one.. can any1 please help with the stock names?

[Magic1111]

Originally Posted by sober

Manos Scopes-SH5 (for TDW's Gui)

Me too....

[Poacher886]

I play with MRP 1x / 6x, the only real issue i have, is that at night you cant see the mills at all!, even with the green filter on the op scope, i cant see the mills what so ever!

I also think it would be good to have mills on the UZO, so you CAN make surface attacks.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Poacher886

I play with MRP 1x / 6x, the only real issue i have, is that at night you cant see the mills at all!, even with the green filter on the op scope, i cant see the mills what so ever!

true. As a workaround, I lighten the gamma in the graphics option at night, until I can make out the mils.

From what I understand though, it was almost impossible to use any periscope at night, except under special conditions, say a full moon.

I also think it would be good to have mills on the UZO, so you CAN make surface attacks.

agreed. I hate using the UZO since I have to totally guesstimate the range.

[Vanilla]

Originally Posted by Poacher886

I play with MRP 1x / 6x, the only real issue i have, is that at night you cant see the mills at all!, even with the green filter on the op scope, i cant see the mills what so ever!

I also think it would be good to have mills on the UZO, so you CAN make surface attacks.

In real life the graticules did have illumination, even UZO. Pity it is not in the game. UZO however did not have any range or mill marks or anything. It just had a vertical line, that's it. So the real 1WO or Kaleun had to judge it from what part of the field of view the ship covered or just get closer.

[Poacher886]

The other anoyance is the measured height of the ship...im not convinced it is always the top of the flag i.e the mast that is the correct aiming point!.

Also if the ship is on an angle the masts are at different heights..it would be better to have it "zeroed" to the top of a funnel!

Infact better still would be the manual including a difinative line showing the true aiming mark.

Also, i was advised the calculation for MRP x6 on my 1920x1200 monitor was for the Attack scope:

Mastx400
---------
Mill count

And for the Op scope:

Mastx100
---------
Mill count

I was'nt convinced that there was any difference between the Op scope and Attack scope, both being 1x and 6x and both Mills looking exactly spaced apart.
I decided while outward bound in the harbour to bring my boat to a complete stop a fair distance from a static ship (the more distance to exaggerate any error).

I took a reading through the Attack scope on x6 and it worked out 2.1, i then took a reading through the Ops scope on x6 and it turned out ......2.1! i even paused the game to get absolute accuracy with no bobbing!

My thoughs thus have been confirmed, there is, and should not be any difference in calculation when using either scope.

Then i worked out the distance using the above calcualtion and it came to about 4500m....i then went to the map and used the ruler which showed it as 4300m, close but not close enough, thus i have now revised my calculation to:

Mastx380
---------
Mill count

I've sunk a few since at 3000m+ but i've also missed a few (though using the new blck/copper torps) might be the issue. In fairness given the torpedo problems present in-game (and history) its to early to confim my calculations yet.

[Trevally.]

Not sure what mods you are using but I did a wee
auto called "tell me range and aob". This could help with your checking.

have you tried using the RAOBF wheel

[Torpedo]

I'm using Manos Scope with a change for gap - HD 1 deg Scope Bearing v 1.0. and a thiny crosshair also at night.



If anyone is interested I can make a small mod.

Torpedo

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Poacher886

The other anoyance is the measured height of the ship...im not convinced it is always the top of the flag i.e the mast that is the correct aiming point!.

Also if the ship is on an angle the masts are at different heights..it would be better to have it "zeroed" to the top of a funnel!

Infact better still would be the manual including a difinative line showing the true aiming mark.

Also, i was advised the calculation for MRP x6 on my 1920x1200 monitor was for the Attack scope:

Mastx400
---------
Mill count

And for the Op scope:

Mastx100
---------
Mill count

I was'nt convinced that there was any difference between the Op scope and Attack scope, both being 1x and 6x and both Mills looking exactly spaced apart.
I decided while outward bound in the harbour to bring my boat to a complete stop a fair distance from a static ship (the more distance to exaggerate any error).

I took a reading through the Attack scope on x6 and it worked out 2.1, i then took a reading through the Ops scope on x6 and it turned out ......2.1! i even paused the game to get absolute accuracy with no bobbing!

My thoughs thus have been confirmed, there is, and should not be any difference in calculation when using either scope.

Then i worked out the distance using the above calcualtion and it came to about 4500m....i then went to the map and used the ruler which showed it as 4300m, close but not close enough, thus i have now revised my calculation to:

Mastx380
---------
Mill count

I've sunk a few since at 3000m+ but i've also missed a few (though using the new blck/copper torps) might be the issue. In fairness given the torpedo problems present in-game (and history) its to early to confim my calculations yet.

If you are using MRP 1.3 w. 8x5 patch (I also play at 1920x1200), I can confirm the reading is accurate from the top of the highest mast. The correct formula to determine range is:

-at 1.5x zoom: (mast height in meters x 100) / horizontal bars

-at 6x zoom: (mast height in meters x 400) / horizontal bars

In version 1.3, there is no longer a difference between observation and attack scopes. Each "horizontal bar" equals 10 mils. for example, if a Liberty Ship is 4 bars high at 6x, the range is 27.2x400/4=2,720 meters.

This works with both the stock game and TDW's UI.

[GT182]

Using stock scopes cause for the life of me I can't get any of the scope mods to work.... so far.

Not sure if it's because I added them while in the campaign and not before I started it. I like the looks of TDW's, and the other scopes too. I just wish they were a separate stand-alone mod that you didn't have to fiddle with to get working. Install and it works with no cfg changes or searching thru UIs to find it.

[Poacher886]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

If you are using MRP 1.3 w. 8x5 patch (I also play at 1920x1200), I can confirm the reading is accurate from the top of the highest mast. The correct formula to determine range is:

-at 1.5x zoom: (mast height in meters x 100) / horizontal bars

-at 6x zoom: (mast height in meters x 400) / horizontal bars

In version 1.3, there is no longer a difference between observation and attack scopes. Each "horizontal bar" equals 10 mils. for example, if a Liberty Ship is 4 bars high at 6x, the range is 27.2x400/4=2,720 meters.

This works with both the stock game and TDW's UI.

Thanks, that good to hear that the mast is always the point of aim, i am as you suggested using the same scope mod and resolution, thus its good to hear from others who have tested!

How can you confirm that 100 and 400 is the correct reading? certainly i can be sure of my visual v Map check was accurate and that told me this was about 250m out.

Is it just by use you suggest the above values?