A dream is arising!

[Schwieger]

Originally Posted by Hans Witteman

*Accurate sea behavior and real weather effect with beautiful environment.

My idea of accurate sea behavior includes:

tides
currents
thermal layers
accurate sea floor
rouge waves
accurate trough to crest distance

I don't care so much about how it looks, as long as it is accurate

[Reece]

Basically I would like to see something like SH3 but with better graphics, UBI's big mistake was patching up SH3 including all the old bugs and introducing new bugs into SH4, then patching this including the old bugs and introducing new ones in SH5, A whole new game including engine should have been done! so a new game with SHIII/GWX background, new graphics engine and completely moddable would be near perfect! (Now that's a dream!)

[Hans Witteman]

Originally Posted by Reece

Basically I would like to see something like SH3 but with better graphics, UBI's big mistake was patching up SH3 including all the old bugs and introducing new bugs into SH4, then patching this including the old bugs and introducing new ones in SH5, A whole new game including engine should have been done! so a new game with SHIII/GWX background, new graphics engine and completely moddable would be near perfect! (Now that's a dream!)

Hi Reece,

Totally agree with you my friend that what driving me nut to do it with others talented fellows as a mention earlier there is also a complete open source program call Ogre 3D this one is truly free i read the license entirely.

A game name Venetica was recently release with it and many others know titles, the only thing you need to know C++ to use it.

My programmer buddy is having a look at the code structure to see wich game engine will be the easiest for him to work with.

Best regards Hans

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Reece

Basically I would like to see something like SH3 but with better graphics, UBI's big mistake was patching up SH3 including all the old bugs and introducing new bugs into SH4, then patching this including the old bugs and introducing new ones in SH5, A whole new game including engine should have been done! so a new game with SHIII/GWX background, new graphics engine and completely moddable would be near perfect! (Now that's a dream!)

I couldn't disagree more. I have a laundry list of things SH3 got wrong. It may be the best we have at the moment but it is not even close to being accurate, in any respect you can name.

It would be so much better to ignore everything Silent Hunter and start from scratch.

[Hans Witteman]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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It would be so much better to ignore everything Silent Hunter and start from scratch.

Hi Steve,

I love that last line starting from scratch without following the Sh3 approach i mean not coding the engine from scratch we don't want to spend the next ten years just doing that, but approaching the simulation aspect in a different perspective because we are too much focused on SH3 i don't know if you follow me but as an analogy the trees are hiding the forest

This tread is really getting interesting it start in uber chaos and now i start to see order from chaos

Best regards Hans

[h.sie]

Hello Hans,

there is already a promising, non-commercial project called "danger from the deep". this project is about 3-5 (??) years old, consists of more than 2 programmers but seems to make no progress at all, because they don't have the manpower. they have an alpha version which looks promising. what about contributing to an existing project instead of starting a new one? this in only an idea without any insulting intentions behind it.

h.sie

[Hans Witteman]

Originally Posted by h.sie

Hello Hans,

there is already a promising, non-commercial project called "danger from the deep". this project is about 3-5 (??) years old, consists of more than 2 programmers but seems to make no progress at all, because they don't have the manpower. they have an alpha version which looks promising. what about contributing to an existing project instead of starting a new one? this in only an idea without any insulting intentions behind it.


h.sie

Hi mate

I have already saw the work they did so far pretty amazing they deserved respect but if i want to start it from scratch it is only because i am very exigent on the graphic quality and since a project as advanced as this one would not be a good starting point at least i think.

And sometime others teams don't like stranger trying to tell them what to do in their own project and i fully understand them.

And don't worry my friend your intentions are totally noble.

You know sometime starting from scratch is the only way to project a designer vision to fruition.

Best regards Hans

[fitzcarraldo]

@Hans: in the thread:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...96#post1587796

There is a long interchange of opinions about a possible new game from Sonalyst. It´s for a modern warfare or subsim game, but there are a lot of good ideas about gameplay and dreams about a sub game. I recommend you to read it!

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

[Hans Witteman]

Originally Posted by Schwieger

My idea of accurate sea behavior includes:

tides
currents
thermal layers
accurate sea floor
rouge waves
accurate trough to crest distance

I don't care so much about how it looks, as long as it is accurate

Hi mate,

According to my programmer buddy :

tides: possible but not easy

current : possible but unnecessary and to difficult for little add on gameplay

thermal layers : possible without problem but to achieve perfectly would need lines of code.

Accurate seafloor : not possible so far no cpu could cope with that but something that look better than sh5 really possible.

rough wave : not sure exactly what you mean but if you are talking of ship behavior in rough wave he said possible

accurate trough to crest distance : possible to a certain point

To sum it all a lot of sea behavior could be achieve with code but nothing will be perfect like in any other simulation out there, maybe in a 100 years if we are still on the planet as a race.

Best regards Hans