Closing the 'Anchor Baby' Loophole

[Ducimus]

You can tap dance around ethics, morals and history all you want, but being bred out of the area is EXACTLY what is happening. Like it or not. They do not integrate, nor do not identify themselves as Americans.



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And just so you know, Montebello is in california.

[Aramike]

Platipus, I think you're missing the point. It's not about any culture being unwelcome. It's about their NATIONALISM being unwelcome.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Aramike

Platipus, I think you're missing the point. It's not about any culture being unwelcome. It's about their NATIONALISM being unwelcome.

Living here, as the years go on, I see fewer and fewer Americans' and more and more foreign nationals, with English being spoken less and less. I guess I should just accept things, and start learning Spanish, eh? Truth be told, it's too late to do anything about illegal immigration now. That train left a few years ago, and this state is a lost cause.

[Platapus]

Sorta like the way Europeans integrated with the Indians?

No one ever said that the ethnic make up of the United States would never change.

"this state is a lost cause."

Well I hope you will pardon some of us who still think the USA is a pretty good place to live and also believe that the future will be ok. It won't be as bad as some fear, not as good as some want. But it will be ok.

And yeah, learning Spanish might be a good idea. Are there any other industrial nations in the world whose citizens speak only one language?

I wish I could speak another language, but I am too dumb. Have tried many times in the past, but, linguistically, I am an average American. I am not exactly proud of that though.

[Ducimus]

Platapus, I think the point of the angst has flown over your head at 50,000 feet. Go back and reread Teddy Roosevelts quote there. Then take a good look at those pictures, which are just the tip of the iceberg.

this state is a lost cause."

Well I hope you will pardon some of us who still think the USA

I said this STATE, not this COUNTRY, and California is indeed a lost cause, in more ways then one.

You know what I tell myself? Just to be fair? I tell myself they've decided to tear up the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, and take back some the lands we took from them during the Mexican American war. Seems only fair, doesn't it? In the meantime, i look forward to moving back to the good ole US. I don't much like living in an overcrowded and bankrupt foreign province.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Platapus, I think the point of the angst has flown over your head at 50,000 feet. Go back and reread Teddy Roosevelts quote there. Then take a good look at those pictures, which are just the tip of the iceberg.

your point is not that hard to understand. I just don't agree with it.

If you are going to quote TR, you might want to read all that he said

I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of ten are, and I shouldn't inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian.

I admire TR for many things, but as an authority on immigration? Nah

[Ducimus]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this subject. Immigration is one area where i lean so far to the right, i might as well have scoliosis. I'm fiercely nationalistic.

(edit: when filling out forms and it asks for ethnicity, I always check the "other" box and write in, "American". I never specify Chinese, German, or Cherokee. Which is what my parents backgrounds were.)