I'm not sure I ever made an introduction yet.

There are no real advantages to having a school uniform. Those who think "it will put an end to bullying" are just naive. What do you think that just because your high school has a uniform everyone loves each other and nobody will ever say or do anything that is inappropriate?

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Would you rather have someone say "your shirt is so 2009, get with the times" or "you're a ****ing faggot who..." and say things that are actually hurtful and cause you serious emotional distress and possibly depression (and along with it more teen suicides)? Thank god school uniforms aren't used in America (except in some private schools).

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Solace

There are no real advantages to having a school uniform. Those who think "it will put an end to bullying" are just naive. What do you think that just because your high school has a uniform everyone loves each other and nobody will ever say or do anything that is inappropriate?

Nobody claimed it would put an end to bullying. That's a strawman argument. It removes clothes as status symbols and a basis for bullying in an environment where distractions like who's wearing what should be minimized. You're there to learn, not to take part in a fashion show.

There are no disadvantages to requiring uniforms.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Nobody claimed it would put an end to bullying. That's a strawman argument. It removes clothes as status symbols and a basis for bullying in an environment where distractions like who's wearing what should be minimized. You're there to learn, not to take part in a fashion show.

There are no disadvantages to requiring uniforms.

High school isn't really about learning. It's about:
-Discovering who you are and what you want to do with your life after high school.
-Chillin with friends.
-Dating.
-Sports (if you're a jock).
-Sex.
-Learning about society.


Sure, mathematics may be useful to an extent, but they teach one-sided versions of history and most of their science information is totally outdated. Did you know they still teach that there are only 9 primary objects in the solar system? What the ****? I mean there are 8 known planets and 5 known dwarf planets, with several other dwarf planets which are unconfirmed but the evidence supports they exist. Half the stuff they teach in both social and physical science classes is either biased or wrong.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Solace

High school isn't really about learning. It's about:
-Discovering who you are and what you want to do with your life after high school.
-Chillin with friends.
-Dating.
-Sports (if you're a jock).
-Sex.
-Learning about society.

Wow. Your priorities are completely screwy.

Originally Posted by Solace

Nobody would agree to use school uniforms in the USA. It would be unenforced and everyone would just do what they have been doing.

What about the numerous school districts that already require them?

In 2007–08, about 18 percent of public school principals reported that their school required students to wear uniforms. In 1999–2000, the percentage of principals who reported that their school required students to wear uniforms was 12 percent.

Also, in 2007–08, approximately 55 percent of public school principals reported that their school enforced a strict dress code, an increase from 47 percent in 1999-2000.

SOURCE: U.S. Department of Education, National Center for Education Statistics. (2009). Indicators of School Crime and Safety: 2009 (NCES 2010-012), Table 20.1.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Wow. Your priorities are completely screwy.



What about the numerous school districts that already require them?

There's only like 1 and that's in Illinois. There are several reason 99% of all schools don't have them.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Solace

There's only like 1 and that's in Illinois. There are several reason 99% of all schools don't have them.

95% of New Orleans’ public schools require uniforms
85% of Cleveland’s public schools require uniforms
80% of Chicago’s public schools require uniforms
65% of Boston’s public schools require uniforms
60% of Miami’s public schools require uniforms
50% of Cincinnati’s public schools require uniforms

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

95% of New Orleans’ public schools require uniforms
85% of Cleveland’s public schools require uniforms
80% of Chicago’s public schools require uniforms
65% of Boston’s public schools require uniforms
60% of Miami’s public schools require uniforms
50% of Cincinnati’s public schools require uniforms

You listed urban schools. City schools are completely different from rural and suburban schools. Most people who live in cities come from very low class African American families. You know, the 'hood.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Wow. Your priorities are completely screwy.



What about the numerous school districts that already require them?

Dress codes are different, but those actually make some sense to prevent teens from coming to school almost naked.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Nobody claimed it would put an end to bullying. That's a strawman argument. It removes clothes as status symbols and a basis for bullying in an environment where distractions like who's wearing what should be minimized. You're there to learn, not to take part in a fashion show.

There are no disadvantages to requiring uniforms.

Nobody would agree to use school uniforms in the USA. It would be unenforced and everyone would just do what they have been doing.