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Sailor Steve · 10-25-10, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I'll trade the eyecandy for realistic gameplay anytime.

If that's true then why aren't you playing AOtD and SH1?

But seriously, folks...SH4 is a marvel. It still needs some improvement, but what it has so far makes it well worth playing.

Armistead · 10-25-10, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

If that's true then why aren't you playing AOtD and SH1?

But seriously, folks...SH4 is a marvel. It still needs some improvement, but what it has so far makes it well worth playing.

Wouldn't even know what AOtD is....

, I think I played the original Silent Service by Microprose, not sure if that anything to do with this series, geesh that was probably 18 years ago. Still got the Tandy PC I played it with and it should still be on there.

Sailor Steve · 10-26-10, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Wouldn't even know what AOtD is....

, I think I played the original Silent Service by Microprose, not sure if that anything to do with this series, geesh that was probably 18 years ago. Still got the Tandy PC I played it with and it should still be on there.

Aces Of The Deep. Arguably the first real subsim, as though it came after Silent Service it was the first one to have a realistic campaign, with assigned patrol areas and career tracking. It also had realistic sonar evasion tactics (bottom-sitting, with a chance to get stuck there) and wolfpacks.

No, SH1 didn't have anything to do with the current series. It was better in some ways.

All that said, some of the feeling for me does indeed come from what I see and hear, so I play SH3 and SH4, complain about what's been lost but enjoy what I have.

Armistead · 10-26-10, 08:01 AM

I didn't play the other SH series, but it amazes me when I hear all the things they left off, like they moved the game from a true sim to arcade play. Seems the past games included wolfpacks, subs on the bottom, true celestial patterns and navigation, SH commander, realistic sonar, ect...worse, seems they coded many of these thing where they can't be added.

Fish40 · 10-26-10, 08:53 AM

"I'll give SH 5 try when its patched with DRM gone, has more time for a supermod of sorts to maybe debut and if its possible, a PTO mod for SH 5, like how OM for SH 4 lets you use U boats in the ATO."

Totally agree! At this point, Awesome graphics and a detailed U boat, while great, just don't cut it for me. A GWX type mod, and the elimination of a constant connection and I'll be sold

Zoomer96 · 10-27-10, 01:40 AM

I'd like to see PTO for SH5! I also feel that UBI should have produced a PTO and an ATO game separately like the old Combat Flight Simulator did Pacific and European versions. It just seems to be more sensible to me. I believe the mods would have been easier to sort also. IMHO.

Sailor Steve · 10-27-10, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoomer96

I'd like to see PTO for SH5! I also feel that UBI should have produced a PTO and an ATO game separately like the old Combat Flight Simulator did Pacific and European versions. It just seems to be more sensible to me. I believe the mods would have been easier to sort also. IMHO.

Really? PTO for SH5? You'd have a Gato, and nothing else. I'd like to see them finish SH5 first.

As for modding it in, they haven't even been able to get any new merchants in yet.

Freiwillige · 10-26-10, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

If that's true then why aren't you playing AOtD and SH1?

But seriously, folks...SH4 is a marvel. It still needs some improvement, but what it has so far makes it well worth playing.

What I should have said was unrealistic hollywood movie drama eye candy.

And just for your information I am currently on my 12th patrol in Command Aces of the Deep.

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10-26-10, 08:01 AM	#4
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I didn't play the other SH series, but it amazes me when I hear all the things they left off, like they moved the game from a true sim to arcade play. Seems the past games included wolfpacks, subs on the bottom, true celestial patterns and navigation, SH commander, realistic sonar, ect...worse, seems they coded many of these thing where they can't be added.

10-26-10, 08:53 AM	#5
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	"I'll give SH 5 try when its patched with DRM gone, has more time for a supermod of sorts to maybe debut and if its possible, a PTO mod for SH 5, like how OM for SH 4 lets you use U boats in the ATO." Totally agree! At this point, Awesome graphics and a detailed U boat, while great, just don't cut it for me. A GWX type mod, and the elimination of a constant connection and I'll be sold

10-27-10, 01:40 AM	#6
Zoomer96 Helmsman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 106 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 0	I'd like to see PTO for SH5! I also feel that UBI should have produced a PTO and an ATO game separately like the old Combat Flight Simulator did Pacific and European versions. It just seems to be more sensible to me. I believe the mods would have been easier to sort also. IMHO.