I guess her teleprompter broke down?

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

So let me get this straight... She has no idea what she saying... She has no idea what she is suppose to say.. Some one is feeding her the words... Why is she in power? The one who is behind the scene feeding her the words to speak and think should be in power? Same goes for the rest of them politicians.

Like we're run by zombies.... and there evil masters are in the background pulling there strings.

why not?

thats how we got Obama to be president

[Bubblehead1980]

All politicians have bad moments (Obama has had quite a few) and slip ups.Brewer is rather courageous to sign the law she did and take a stand against the dangerous issue of illegal immigration.Of course the open borders people whine and cry racism but she's doing well and obviously most people in her state think so.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

All politicians have bad moments (Obama has had quite a few) and slip ups.Brewer is rather courageous to sign the law she did and take a stand against the dangerous issue of illegal immigration.Of course the open borders people whine and cry racism but she's doing well and obviously most people in her state think so.

You are kidding right?

She gets asked to go back on an obviously state damaging and incorrect statement (Headless bodies In AZ) And her first response is to attack labor. And ran away from reporters.

You call that politically courageous? Republicans are in trouble in they can't stare reality in the face.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Republicans are in trouble in they can't stare reality in the face.

the same could be said of Democrats.

this country is more divided than it probably ever has been since the civil war.... there is the reality both "sides" could stand to take a good, hard look at

fact remains that illegal immigration is a very serious issue, one that democrats dont seem to care about. Their solution is amnesty - which does not address the problem - it encourages MORE illegals to flood into this nation.

im all about immigration reform, but i also think more should be done to put a stop to illegal immigration... I fully support the proof of citizenship law, but thats just me.

Personally i think there should be exorbitant fines or even jail time for anyone caught doing business of any kind with illegal immigrants - renting them property, selling them goods... anything.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Personally i think there should be exorbitant fines or even jail time for anyone caught doing business of any kind with illegal immigrants - renting them property, selling them goods... anything.

Cut off the head and the body will die. You can't fault illegals for fulfilling a demand that we ourselves have created.

[Zachstar]

Why can't we have middle ground instead of extreme laws? I fully support spending federal treasure to build a slew of drones to support border patrol. Why? Because that is the ONLY way to seriously put a dent in it.

Another tho far less effective due to the politics is far tougher measures to make companies that hire them live in fear but pro-business groups will shut that down fast. With the bullcrap excuses like. "Who will pick the grapes?" Guess what AMERICANS will when they are forced to pay a proper wage to attract help.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Cut off the head and the body will die. You can't fault illegals for fulfilling a demand that we ourselves have created.

What demand are you referring to exactly?

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

What demand are you referring to exactly?

He's referring to how many of us (legal citizens) readily and gladly pay illegals to perform our menial tasks for us. I tend to agree with him, although I still think border control is the first step.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Webster

why not?

thats how we got Obama to be president

And Bush. And Clinton. And Bush. And Reagan. And...

Hey, maybe 'They' are doing this to keep us fighting each other, so we won't notice what's really going on. First one side, then the other...

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And Bush. And Clinton. And Bush. And Reagan. And...

Hey, maybe 'They' are doing this to keep us fighting each other, so we won't notice what's really going on. First one side, then the other...

There's a lot of truth to that. And I hold equally responsible the political 'aficionados' that regard elections and cycles as little more than sporting events, each hoping that their 'team' wins the 'championship' and seeking to attain that end by resorting to arguments about the remote and arbitrary.

But more directly to your point, I find the duality of the political tiresome. As per voting, I have a choice between the representative of Party A that is in power and has screwed things up, or the representative of Party B that is not in power but screwed things up the last time. What kind of choice is that?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And Bush. And Clinton. And Bush. And Reagan. And...

Hey, maybe 'They' are doing this to keep us fighting each other, so we won't notice what's really going on. First one side, then the other...

"This is exactly what the Founders want: Klingon against Cardassian! Federation against Klingon! The more we fight each other, the weaker we'll get and the less chance we have against the Dominion!"