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The language we use has toned the meaning of this condition under complete jargon. Say it to yourself: (or listen to go through it.) Shell shock!! Battle Fatigue.... Operational exhaustion... Post-Tramuatic Stress Disorder... And now.... its' been reduced even further to an acronym. PTSD. With "Shell shock", you hear the words, and you can pretty much figure out the meaning without the aid of a dictionary or wiki. With PTSD, the pain of the condition is completely buried under jargon, which in turn has the side effect of people not taking it as seriously as they should, and vets not getting the help they need. |
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How many times have we heard the same story in domestic violence scenerios which have no relation to the military? Many times. The effort to link the military to murder/suicide is based upon a flawed premise.
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He killed his pregnant wife and daughter. While I won't rule anything out I also don't want to exclude the fact that he could have just been a nutjob, something that we sometimes fail to examine when it comes to veterans due to their service.
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Exactly. Again, don't discount the possibility, but don't assume either.
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Extreme apathy and or extreme anger may cause them intent to cause harm to others. They are mentally unfit to think for themselves when they are in such situation. What they need is help and sympathy not condemnation Quote:
War seems to degrade people participating in it even when they are no longer in that war or in a new peaceful environment. Sad thing is these men are still so young they have their lives in front of them.
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I think the medical term its ended up as is that way because it applies to a disorder that anybody can suffer, not just military personal. For instance, if you were traumatized by a bad car accident, you wouldn't refer to this condition as shell shock or battle fatigue right? It is a stress disorder that is caused by some past traumatic expierience. Medically, the name makes perfect sense. The disinction will only help to further develop treatments for it in peace time and in times of war. Last edited by Moeceefus; 08-20-10 at 09:02 PM. |
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bit of a revival, but I just read this article on the beeb:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11057430 Some of the statistics seem a bit woolly, guess that's just the article? No easy answers. more reading here: http://www3.gazette.com/documents/epiconreport.pdf
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How about Blechkoller considering what website we are on?
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