[UNCOVERED] SH5 officially left for dead!

[Bubblehead1980]

Well if they are finished patching it, then they need to release one thing, a fix for DRM so can play the game offline and lets the mods(who do better work anyway) have at it.

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

So, lemmie get this straight. They released a half-baked sim and patches you can count on one hand and they abandoned it? And to think I paid money for it. I'm calling my lawyers.

[Onkel Neal]

SH5: Released to soon, killed by the "fans".

[wingcom]

the real problem is gonna be a year from now when they decide the DRM servers are taking up too much space for so few players. then asta la vista online baby. Hello dark side.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by wingcom

the real problem is gonna be a year from now when they decide the DRM servers are taking up too much space for so few players. then asta la vista online baby. Hello dark side.

No, it has been repeatedly stated that the game will be patched to allow offline play should the online servers be discontinued. Nothing to worry about in that case.

[MGR1]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

No, it has been repeatedly stated that the game will be patched to allow offline play should the online servers be discontinued. Nothing to worry about in that case.

That, unfortunately, is when I'm likely to buy it. If it wasn't for a "certain issue" I'd have bought it by now.

A pity, as it looks as though it'll be a fine U-Boat sim once the modders have given it a thorough makeover.

Mike.

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

Here's what REALLY happened...

On a dark, and stormy night two Ubi execs met.

1st Exec: "Hey, I have a great idea. Let's release SH5 tomorrow."

2nd Exec: "But it isn't completed."

1st Exec: "That's OK, we'll be saving a lot of money. The mods will improve on it...FOR FREE!"

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

SH5: Released to soon, killed by the "fans".

So it would seem.

[THE_MASK]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

SH5: Released to soon, killed by the "fans".

The truest statement ever on subsim . However modding and sales might bring back the dead in the future .

[longam]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

SH5: Released to soon, killed by the "fans".

Seems to be a ME ME world anymore.

[daft]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

SH5: Released to soon, killed by the "fans".

Agreed. There are more guilty parties besides Ubi in this case. A self fulfilling prophecy of ever I saw one. "The subsim genre is dead". Well, it certainly has taken a big step towards that state, but the blame lies not only with Ubi or the devs...

[thyro]

Originally Posted by daft

Agreed. There are more guilty parties besides Ubi in this case. A self fulfilling prophecy of ever I saw one. "The subsim genre is dead". Well, it certainly has taken a big step towards that state, but the blame lies not only with Ubi or the devs...

I agree to differ with both observations (your's and Neal's)! Blame lies sole and only with UBI

Please don't be naive and trying to tell paying customers that is our fault because UBI product suck heavily!

Please I don't need to know that you are the only exception this World that when you go to a car dealership to buy an expensive car, you end-up buy any shyte without an engine but if has at least one wheel you are happy with. If that makes you happy then please be, and don't assume all others would follow such low standards too blindly.

Same with UBI and SH5, an unfinished game packed with bugs plus DRM... deadly combination!

Just pity on those that unaware of the problems with this shyte SH product end-up buying such abortion for now to find out that they their money would be better spent feeding peanuts/bananas to real monkeys rather than scammers. All others that bought knowing of the problems with this unfinished shyte, well tough!

But you know what? The remaining good thing is, you got SH5 and in 3 or 4 years time it will be finished thanks to mods... if no better and finished game appears in the market replacing this SH5 abortion... hopefully not UBI crap thank you!

Cheers

[Topo65]

I think, that companies owe to their clients and not vice versa. The only duty of a client is paying for what they buy and customers buy only what suits them.

When the community asked for more simulation, they responded with more automated features.
When the community sayed no more intrusive anti-piracy system, they responded with DRM.
When the community asked for more realism, they responded with a first person game.
When the community asked for a more dynamic campaign, they responded with a campaign 1939/1941.
When the community asked for more and more detailed submarines, they responded with a single type of submarine.
When the community asked for a better simulation ended, they returned with a job unfinished.
When the community asked for support, they were left to the modders.
When the community speaks simulation, they respond about gameplay.

I see Silent Hunter, as a project full of good intentions, trying to grow in an environment increasingly stingy. The proof is, that after each release, we need more and more of our modders.

Now, my question is: Why we pretend that Ubi develop a simulator for us if we know very certainly that Ubi dont have any interest in developing simulators of any kind?

Greetings and sorry for my english.

[Arclight]

I hate to do this, but without anyone to counter claims, it's just going to result in a forum full of complaints and misinformation.

Originally Posted by Topo65

I think, that companies owe to their clients and not vice versa. The only duty of a client is paying for what they buy and customers buy only what suits them.

True, but if you wish to see a product improve and develop, you should provide feedback. Posting "SH5 sux" over and over doesn't accomplish anything, except prove to the dev/publisher that there's no interest.

When the community asked for more simulation, they responded with more automated features.

Without taking anything out. Problem here is the interface is horribly incomplete; all previous functions are still present, but not accesible. (modded in)

When the community sayed no more intrusive anti-piracy system, they responded with DRM.

True enough.

When the community asked for more realism, they responded with a first person game.

Captains didn't generally float around or teleport.

When the community asked for a more dynamic campaign, they responded with a campaign 1939/1941.

Which is more dynamic than the ones before.

When the community asked for more and more detailed submarines, they responded with a single type of submarine.

Which has a fully modeled, detailed interior. iirc the community actually asked for full interiors, not more subs.

When the community asked for a better simulation ended, they returned with a job unfinished.

As always, sadly.

When the community asked for support, they were left to the modders.

Remains to be seen, true enough for the moment.

When the community speaks simulation, they respond about gameplay.

Yes, videogames tend to be about gameplay, sim or not. dev/publisher will always try to promote their product in interviews, can't really expect anything else.

Originally Posted by Topo65

I see Silent Hunter, as a project full of good intentions, trying to grow in an environment increasingly stingy. The proof is, that after each release, we need more and more of our modders.

Now, my question is: Why we pretend that Ubi develop a simulator for us if we know very certainly that Ubi dont have any interest in developing simulators of any kind?

Greetings and sorry for my english.

Agreed, SH5 didn't get the time and money it needed.

As far as simulators go: they published IL2 and LockOn; no doubt those are simulators. It seems you're forgetting about SH3, a praised and popular game (within it's niche) also regarded as a sim.


Thyro; SH5 was perfectly playable from the start, though with a lot of missing functionality. And with the mods at this point it is perfectly enjoyable. No need to wait 3-4 years. I'd even consider that statement a slight to the work modders have already done.

[SteelViking]

Well said Arclight, and thank you.

About that last statement about Thyro's post being a slight to the modders. I actually perceive all statements bashing SH5 as a slight to the modders, unless they are referring to the DRM. Or, unless they are bringing up a valid concern that has truly not been fixed by modders yet.

Basically, if people would truly take the time to get the right mods, I don't think they would complain very much if at all. But, instead, there is this group of people who refuse to buy the game,(or if they have it they refuse to see the good qualities of it or get mods apparently) and those people spam these forums with misinformed and overly negative statements. Frankly, I am getting sick of it.

Again, if your problem is with the DRM, and that is what is stopping you from buying or enjoying, I completely understand, I hate it myself.