German Police Arrest man with "Hitlermobil"

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Skybird

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Note: you are good in Swedish!

Free speech...

Its nothing to do with free speech, the laws that cover such Nazi stuff are under the section dealing with things like treason.
The particular subsection which covers this if intent is shown is the protection of democracy bit.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Its nothing to do with free speech, the laws that cover such Nazi stuff are under the section dealing with things like treason.
The particular subsection which covers this if intent is shown is the protection of democracy bit.

[Safe-Keeper]

Let the poor guy go, he lives in a free country which allows him to to state his mind like everyone else.

Oh no, wait, he doesn't.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Let the poor guy go, he lives in a free country which allows him to to state his mind like everyone else.

Oh no, wait, he doesn't.

I see the picture clear

[August]

I figure the Germans have the right to ban and restrict nazi images in their country without being accused of violating free speech rights.

The way I see it the nazis gave up their right to speak freely in modern society because of their actions. If it were up to me we'd go after every neo nazi group worldwide with tanks and infantry and finish the job we left off back in 1945.

The only good nazi is a dead nazi.

[Kissaki]

Originally Posted by August

I figure the Germans have the right to ban and restrict nazi images in their country without being accused of violating free speech rights.

The way I see it the nazis gave up their right to speak freely in modern society because of their actions.

Hereditary sin?

If it were up to me we'd go after every neo nazi group worldwide with tanks and infantry and finish the job we left off back in 1945.

The only good nazi is a dead nazi.

Yes, John Rabe was a horrible, horrible man! And wiping out anyone with an oponion we find distasteful can surely be no murder, if we can find justification in likeminded people in history. Come to think of it, the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat, because they were anti-abolitionists back in the day. And modern day Democrats - including Obama - are just as guilty as those 200 years ago and must suffer the consequences. What they have themselves actually done or not done is entirely irrelevant.

And here is another place where the german government skates on thin ice.

"Volksverhetzung is a punishable offense under Section 130 of the Strafgesetzbuch (Germany's criminal code) and can lead to up to five years imprisonment. Volksverhetzung is punishable in Germany even if committed abroad and even if committed by non-German citizens, if the incitement of hatred takes effect on German territory—that is, the seditious sentiment was expressed in written or spoken German and disseminated in Germany (German criminal code's Principle of Ubiquity, Section 9 Paragraph 1 Alternatives 3 and 4 of the Strafgesetzbuch).[2]"

I remmember this situation arising in Denmark.
The justice minister took it upon herself to "go along with the program", and had a group of people arrested. Within 24 hours, they were released by the court, who decided to go along with the Danish Constitution, rather than "the program".

Exportation of tyranical restrictions of Freedom Of Speech are NOT acceptable.

The german people are "free" to accept tyrany within their own borders, if they so choose.
The german government however, is NOT free to export that tyrany to other lands.

Again, restrictions on Freedom Of Speech, lead to restrictions on Freedom Of Thought.

And here is another place where the german government skates on thin ice.

Is that by any chance the incitement subsection that is used for holocaust deniers.

[Penguin]

I guess it's not fully clear for the English-speaking people, that the topic is not about this:



but about this:


2nd image is from this video:

(at 0:30, though the whole video is worth watching, even funny if you don't speak German)

I was wondering why the guy was driving on a platform (parrong) of a train station, till I found out it is about a guy who had a mobile phone with a ringtone with a speech from Adolf. This happens when you use google translate

Oh yes, and thanks to the US freedom of speech I am allowed to post an image which contains a swastika...

[AndreasMeyer]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Its nothing to do with free speech, the laws that cover such Nazi stuff are under the section dealing with things like treason.
The particular subsection which covers this if intent is shown is the protection of democracy bit.

Just because they got legislation to suppress politically incorrect opinions, doesn't mean that it is not about Free Speech.

There is no Free Speech in Germany. And the state does pro-actively persecute dissidents of a nationalistic or revisionistic kind.

[Oberon]

Do they prosecute thread necromancers?

[Sailor Steve]

Do you always jump into arguments that ended almost three years ago?

[Dowly]

Nothing wrong in that.

[Catfish]

Hitler's car scene in 'Rat race'