Which GUI for a beginner in manual targeting?

sharkbit · 05-27-10, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mefaba

Again, thanks to all fellow kaleuns for their advices.

Does anybody know where to find a tutorial or a manual for Magui 3? I don't know how to use that scope wheel.

Thanks in advance

Fatih

IIRC it should be in the read me or documentation folder of the mod. If not, maybe in the thread about the GUI.

dfscott · 05-27-10, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sharkbit

IIRC it should be in the read me or documentation folder of the mod. If not, maybe in the thread about the GUI.

Yep, there's a rar file within the download called "documents for the tools of MaGui 3.rar".

Dissaray · 05-27-10, 12:26 PM

You can also get a good feel for how to work the things with the vidio tutorials that OLC produced for his GUI. If I recal the two don't have much diferances between the two and any diferances are noted in the documentation provided with MaGui.

comet61 · 05-27-10, 02:32 PM

Yes....makman includes many documents for his mods. There are a few video tutorials for the attack wheel. Not too hard to use once you get the hang of it. The only piece of advice I would give if you use Magui (I believe he advises this) is to keep the weapons officer available for target ID. Other than that I have everything else turned off including the scope stable views...

sabretwo · 11-07-10, 09:44 PM

I see that MaGUI has the Whiz Wheel on the Attack Scope similar to OLC Gold, but the markings and ranges are different. I can find the tutorials describing plotting techniques and use of the AOB wheel, but I don't see any tutorial that makes sense of the markings on MAGUIs whiz wheel.

Is it possible to obtain solutions using the whiz wheel alone (as was possible in OLC)? If so, can anyone direct me to a tutorial somewhere?

Also, in spite of the documentation in the RAR file, I don't see anything with a simple introduction to all the buttons and keyboard shortcuts for the MaGUI interface. (For example, how do you change zoom in attack periscope mode?...This was eliminated in OLC)

Tessa · 11-07-10, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sabretwo

I see that MaGUI has the Whiz Wheel on the Attack Scope similar to OLC Gold, but the markings and ranges are different. I can find the tutorials describing plotting techniques and use of the AOB wheel, but I don't see any tutorial that makes sense of the markings on MAGUIs whiz wheel.

Is it possible to obtain solutions using the whiz wheel alone (as was possible in OLC)? If so, can anyone direct me to a tutorial somewhere?

Also, in spite of the documentation in the RAR file, I don't see anything with a simple introduction to all the buttons and keyboard shortcuts for the MaGUI interface. (For example, how do you change zoom in attack periscope mode?...This was eliminated in OLC)

The zoom is changed with the Tab key to go from 6x-15x. There's a video that shows in detail how to plot an attack from first sighting to launching your torpedos that is very well done. I'm still quite the novice with manual targetting despite the great gui and its tools. There are a lot of people out there who are pro's with it, one thing that the vets have taught me is that you can use (not sure if the same is true of the classic OLC) but with MaGui you can use its ring as a shortcut to finding out things like target speed or other variable without having to calculate them once you have a basic plot of the angle(s).

sabretwo · 11-08-10, 11:00 PM

Thanks, Tessa. I spent some time reading through the MaGUI threads and found a post by Makman on using MaGUI's AOB Finder ('Whiz Wheel'). It's fundamentally the same as the one in OLC Gold. Makman's post described finding the range and the AOB, but not speed. I am assuming that works the same as in OLC (read opposite the tick mark on the inner ring).

Since there was no mention of using the AOB Finder only at certain zoom levels, I am assuming it is the same at all zooms. (Correct me please if I am wrong!)

A lot of my questions seemed to be woven here and there through the MaGUI threads, but unfortunately I haven't found any consolidated guide. I am organizing my own guide as I find what I need. When I get done, I'll PDF it and send it over to Makman. It might be worth making available for those who are new to the MaGUI interface. (I was lucky enough to at least have used the OLC interface for some time. For someone totally new to this style interface, it would be a devil trying to figure this out.)

It's getting late tonight, but I am going to try my hand with it tomorrow in the SH3 Academy. If it works as well as OLC's (basically seems the same), it should be a snap.

I will also check out the video tutorials. The approach using Makman's plotting techniques seems a bit different than what I was doing with OLC, but it definately looks worth learning. (Time for this Kaleun to go back to school for a while and learn a few new tricks)

05-27-10, 02:32 PM	#4
comet61 Sparky Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 151 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 0	docs Yes....makman includes many documents for his mods. There are a few video tutorials for the attack wheel. Not too hard to use once you get the hang of it. The only piece of advice I would give if you use Magui (I believe he advises this) is to keep the weapons officer available for target ID. Other than that I have everything else turned off including the scope stable views...

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05-27-10, 12:26 PM	#3
Dissaray 中国水兵 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 280 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	You can also get a good feel for how to work the things with the vidio tutorials that OLC produced for his GUI. If I recal the two don't have much diferances between the two and any diferances are noted in the documentation provided with MaGui.

11-07-10, 09:44 PM	#5
sabretwo Frogman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 295 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	I see that MaGUI has the Whiz Wheel on the Attack Scope similar to OLC Gold, but the markings and ranges are different. I can find the tutorials describing plotting techniques and use of the AOB wheel, but I don't see any tutorial that makes sense of the markings on MAGUIs whiz wheel. Is it possible to obtain solutions using the whiz wheel alone (as was possible in OLC)? If so, can anyone direct me to a tutorial somewhere? Also, in spite of the documentation in the RAR file, I don't see anything with a simple introduction to all the buttons and keyboard shortcuts for the MaGUI interface. (For example, how do you change zoom in attack periscope mode?...This was eliminated in OLC)

11-08-10, 11:00 PM	#7
sabretwo Frogman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 295 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Thanks, Tessa. I spent some time reading through the MaGUI threads and found a post by Makman on using MaGUI's AOB Finder ('Whiz Wheel'). It's fundamentally the same as the one in OLC Gold. Makman's post described finding the range and the AOB, but not speed. I am assuming that works the same as in OLC (read opposite the tick mark on the inner ring). Since there was no mention of using the AOB Finder only at certain zoom levels, I am assuming it is the same at all zooms. (Correct me please if I am wrong!) A lot of my questions seemed to be woven here and there through the MaGUI threads, but unfortunately I haven't found any consolidated guide. I am organizing my own guide as I find what I need. When I get done, I'll PDF it and send it over to Makman. It might be worth making available for those who are new to the MaGUI interface. (I was lucky enough to at least have used the OLC interface for some time. For someone totally new to this style interface, it would be a devil trying to figure this out.) It's getting late tonight, but I am going to try my hand with it tomorrow in the SH3 Academy. If it works as well as OLC's (basically seems the same), it should be a snap. I will also check out the video tutorials. The approach using Makman's plotting techniques seems a bit different than what I was doing with OLC, but it definately looks worth learning. (Time for this Kaleun to go back to school for a while and learn a few new tricks)