What do you feel about SH5 now?

[mookiemookie]

Zitat von Nordmann

Hear, hear! True spoken.

Frankly, I'm surprised personal attacks are allowed on here, as most forums that I visit tend to issue suspensions or bans for this kind of behaviour; it is unnecessary, and a real turn off for new community members. If you have to resort to derogatory names, you have already lost the debate.

A-MEN! The Subsim I know would have brigged people who had nothing to offer but namecalling.

[Méo]

Zitat von Reece

These posts exist because of peoples frustration, some just show it with a little more passion than others, to some Silent Hunter is a game, others it's a life, ranting though does nothing, but sometimes it's the only way to vent steam!!

I see what you mean, and some comments are somewhat excessive ..to say the least.

After all, SH5 is, slowly but surely, getting better.

[McBeck]

Moderators are making sure issues are being addressed. Lets get back on track....

[W_clear]

It's a great game。I like it very much.Hope everyone understands the game developers, they are not easy. If you do not believe that you try development of a game。


Long live the understanding。

[Jimbuna]

Zitat von McBeck

Moderators are making sure issues are being addressed. Lets get back on track....

Let me check to make sure there isn't a train due first

[Zedi]

Zitat von W_clear

Hope everyone understands the game developers, they are not easy. If you do not believe that you try development of a game。


Long live the understanding。

Just.. let me understand this. Ubi is the only one video game developer company in the world? If this is true, then .. yeah, I think you are right.

It should be a very hard work to develop games, maybe in the meantime they also invented the hot water and the silly walks. Outstanding job, we should be grateful for this absolutely genuine and revolutionary game. Too bad that they forgot to test the game before launch, but I suppose they were exhausted and forgot to do that. So after this long and hard work, they must took a long and well deserved vacation so that's also explain why is no communication or some serious patches to the very minor bugs that the mean community found.

I feel good and relaxed now, I needed this clarification. /ty

[Nordmann]

Zitat von Sailor Steve

Actually they aren't. People aren't directly suspended at first, but they are warned when the moderators think they've gone too far. Of course there are differences of opinion on what constitutes a personal attack, but these threads are watched.

I suppose that may be the case in some incidents, but there are a lot of flame wars spread across the forum, which appear to go unnoticed for some time. Even then, the perpetrators are generally told to settle down and nothing more, which is essentially like telling a five year old not to touch the cookie jar you have conveniently left in plain sight!

To say little of the repeated thread spamming of the general SH5 board, threads which say nothing new, and oft repeat the rage of many weeks previous. Unnecessary. As I said earlier, some forums take a very dim view of such actions, and immediate bans are not unknown. I'm not saying that SubSim should take this route, but stricter moderation is probably needed.

It's Neal's forum though, so this is only my personal opinion.

Zitat von mookiemookie

A-MEN! The Subsim I know would have brigged people who had nothing to offer but namecalling.

I guess the mods are cutting people some slack, but there is such a thing as being too lenient.

[robbo180265]

Zitat von Nordmann

I suppose that may be the case in some incidents, but there are a lot of flame wars spread across the forum, which appear to go unnoticed for some time. Even then, the perpetrators are generally told to settle down and nothing more, which is essentially like telling a five year old not to touch the cookie jar you have conveniently left in plain sight!

I still think the best course of action for dealing with these members is to ignore them completely. It's a tiny amount of members who do this and generally they are only seeking attention. Starve them of attention and (hopefully) they will leave.

To say little of the repeated thread spamming of the general SH5 board, threads which say nothing new, and oft repeat the rage of many weeks previous. Unnecessary. As I said earlier, some forums take a very dim view of such actions, and immediate bans are not unknown. I'm not saying that SubSim should take this route, but stricter moderation is probably needed.

When it comes to the thread spamming - don't post in the thread , it's obvious really - you post , it goes to the top , others post - rinse and repeat. Don't post in those threads and they will die naturally.

It's Neal's forum though, so this is only my personal opinion.



I guess the mods are cutting people some slack, but there is such a thing as being too lenient.

They are operating a yellow card system from what I can tell. I assume it's 2 or 3 yellows and you are sent off.


I think the mods do a really good job in a sometimes difficult forum , but as I've said earlier it's also up all of us to help them too.

Zitat von robbo180265

They are operating a yellow card system from what I can tell. I assume it's 2 or 3 yellows and you are sent off.


I think the mods do a really good job in a sometimes difficult forum , but as I've said earlier it's also up all of us to help them too.

Both you and the poster just above you should think probably more than twice before having the nerve to say what you've just said. Just because you like SH5 (I won't use "fanboi" again, it seems that this is considered an insult from an unknown reason to me) doesn't give you (fortunately) the right to ban the voices that are dissapointed by SH5 or UBI. I suppose if this forum would have moderators that are thinking in your style, it would be really bad. Sorry to say that, but you should be ashamed of yourself, you have a very immature attitude in this area.

[kylania]

Zitat von MataDirtyHarry

You and the poster above should think probably more than twice before having the nerve to say what you've just said.

Sorry to say that, but you should be ashamed of yourself, you have a very immature attitude in this area.

...doesn't give you (fortunately) the right to ban the voices that are dissapointed by SH5 or UBI.

Can you not tell the difference between insulting others and commenting on the game? You just personally attacked other forum members while not mentioning anything about Ubisoft or Silent Hunter 5. You're not knocking Ubi, or expressing disappointment over the game, you're just insulting other members. That's why you're getting warned I imagine.

No one is going to be banned for reasonably expressing disappointment for the game. They will probably get banned for constantly insulting and attacking others however.

[Seefer]

As soon as someone converts to attacking the person rather than the points they are making, they have already lost the argument and are in danger of showing how weak their stance was in the first place, as well as how weak-minded they are in being able to put forward their own arguments.

This method of attacking the person in an argument is a well-known 'logical fallacy' called an 'ad hominim' and has been known about for thousands of years.

Forums are a great study source for anyone interested in logicial fallacies, especially 'flame war' threads. This is what happens when debate can be done behind the mask of anonymity

Seriously though, everyone should Google and Wiki 'logicial fallacies', if only to arm themselves with the right tools with which to make constructive arguments and hopefully lessen some of the trash talk that crops up in forums so very often.

Amazingly, most of the times I have posted about ad hominims in other forums, I've invaribaly gotten immediate responses along the lines of "No one cares about your psuedo-intellectual nonsense....go away", which is obviously an ad hominim itself. It's like some weird self-fullfilling prophecy oni the nature of some forum posters. Of course everyone here at Subsim is far to savvy and intelligent for that

No one cares about your psuedo-intellectual nonsense ... creep!

[robbo180265]

Zitat von CaptainPanAm

No one cares about your psuedo-intellectual nonsense ... creep!

As soon as I got to the last paragraph of Seefer's post I knew what was coming (as did he I would imagine) but I still guffawed

Welcome to Subsim - with a sense of humour like that I reckon you'll fit right in.

[longam]

It's a total fiasco

It sounds like a really good Taco Bell item to me, the fiasco burrito. nom nom nom

[kylania]

Zitat von longam

It sounds like a really good Taco Bell item to me, the fiasco burrito. nom nom nom

Grr, now I want a burrito!