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Old 05-06-10, 05:25 PM   #1
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We've had cases of blasphemy where the offenders have served time in prisons here in Finland, not to mention the more poorer christian nations where stuff like killing gays etc. is very common. Haven't heard much if anything from the pope condemning any of that.
Wow, nothing personal, but I'd not live in a country where I could be jailed for blasphemy, that's, well, medieval. Heck, I'd not live someplace without explicit separation of church and state for the same reason. Creepy.

I'm not talking ancient history, think in the last decade or so (yes, I am well aware that the Catholic church was complicit in the Nazi regime, and never even excommunicated Hitler (a later pope excommunicated all commies with one signature, however, lol)).

We're talking about ART, and the population at large violently protesting because it is blasphemous.
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Old 05-06-10, 05:36 PM   #2
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Wow, nothing personal, but I'd not live in a country where I could be jailed for blasphemy, that's, well, medieval. Heck, I'd not live someplace without explicit separation of church and state for the same reason. Creepy.

I'm not talking ancient history, think in the last decade or so (yes, I am well aware that the Catholic church was complicit in the Nazi regime, and never even excommunicated Hitler (a later pope excommunicated all commies with one signature, however, lol)).

We're talking about ART, and the population at large violently protesting because it is blasphemous.
Yes, you'd rather live in place where the native population was purged only some 100 + years ago. I think that's creepy.

But yes, my country has religion but to say that there is no christianity in US society would be a lie. In god we trust etc.

What population is protesting against the South Park-thing? Wasn't it just bunch of guys somewhere posting something on the internet...kind of like us, eh?
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Every country on earth exists because some people at some point banged whoever was there first over the head and took it from them. That's just life for violent Homo sapiens.

I'd be less worried about killing indians over 100 years ago than being an ally of nazi germany 70 years ago—the total death toll of native americans in the USA was only in the thousands, horrible as even that was (the bulk of deaths in the Americas (millions) happened from disease shortly after the Scandinavians and Spanish arrived). That said, both are not relevant to modern history, they are for this conversation "ancient history" with nothing to do with modern people.

As for Christianity in the US, that's true, but again, it is not mandated by the state, and every single time someone brings up even ridiculous claims of the state adopting religion, it gets struck down (the state religious stuff). Every time.

As an aside, examples from here in New Mexico are town seals (the town "logo") that have crosses on them—many dating back hundreds of years to the Spaniards. The funny one is for the town of Las Cruces (the crosses). It has crosses, lol. They want the crosses removed, but apparently not the NAME, heheh. If it goes to the State supreme court, it will be tried in our capital, Santa Fe (Holy Faith). Santa Fe is in the foothills of the Sangre de Christo mountains. LOL. Some stuff is just historical, and they (atheists) need to chill out (and I'm an atheist, myself).
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Ya know I wasent gonna bring this up but the thread got necro'd. so..

It is a fact that the Times Square bomber set his 'bomb' right in front of Comedy Central. Now it may very well be that it was a convienent parking spot.

Yea I know... (dons tin foil)
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YEah, I think I mentioned in that thread that the truck was in front of viacom.
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Btw in front of what building was the McVeigh truck parked? That's right.
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Btw in front of what building was the McVeigh truck parked? That's right.
What is your point, and how does this relate to Islamic terrorism in New York?

He attacked a Federal Building because he had a beef with the Federal Government. He was caught, and quite properly executed for his terrible crime.
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What is your point, and how does this relate to Islamic terrorism in New York?

He attacked a Federal Building because he had a beef with the Federal Government. He was caught, and quite properly executed for his terrible crime.
Oh that's ok then to attack the federal government but not because of a religious motive which McVeigh 100% didn't have. What he did he did for the right reasons. I get it now.

Also his collaborators weren't tortured in order to obtain information that they refused to tell and have never told.
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