SimHQ Reviews SH5

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by SimHq Tom Cofield

I think the campaign structure is outstanding, even with the above stuff. Remember I am a flight sim guy, not a dedicated submariner (although I have been doing this and SHIV a lot more than flying lately) so I compare the game campaign to ones like IL2 or Lock ON and this campaign is damned good. It blows PT boats out of the water (talk about stupid rules of engagement). I haven't met a campaign that couldn't be better but overall this one is very above average.

As for the rest, the game is about as frustrating as it can be for a reviewer. Neil, sorry I forgot to send the copy to you to look over. I thought Doug was going to run it on Monday and was going to have you check it out for major stupid errors but he ran it early and I forgot to send it to you Friday.

If they patch it, and if they do something about the DRM, and once the game is heavily modded then I might just do a re-review of the title. This is a game that could be absolutely outstanding, actually fantastic because the base is there for an outstanding game. Just like SHIII and IV, this is a game that shipped incomplete but unlike SHIII or IV this game has some serious detractions that hurt the game significantly. Luckily a lot of it can be fixed.

No problem, Tom, very good review. I appreciate a review that strives to examine the good and bad, and present a reasonable balance.

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

No problem, Tom, very good review. I appreciate a review that strives to examine the good and bad, and present a reasonable balance.

Overall a well balanced review...and glad to see you didnt take my critique of your review the wrong way

Neil said it best...it does strike a reasonable balance. Your summation at the end said enough.

Now here is to hoping UBI will surprise us by taking time with the patch!! Something I dont think they did with SH3 or 4...and left both versions half patched (and again my major gripe with SH4 was the final patch was ONLY included if you bought the expansion...which is utter bollocks.)

[thyro]

Quote from last page under "Overall Opinions and Recommendations"

"...Boy, is this a hard game to not recommend..."

Boy is this is not hard to NOT recommend

"...Once players can get past these issues, there is a potential for a lot of fun with this game..."

Of course once the game gets properly finished, once the online idiocricy gets dropped and all large collection of bugs for one unfinished game gets solved, it would become a game. The question is would it become a game or just a demo that only some with a stable internent connection can play.

So your as score for the review 1 out of 5, is preferably to warn protential buyers of a unfinished game rather than say we hope one day all the crap gets solved.

"...There are already some mods released that will correct some of the deficiencies in the game, but the fact that the second patch — the one that is supposed to correct many of these problems — is delayed once again means players that bought the game in good faith are still waiting for fixes that shouldn’t have been in the gold release..."

Is the same to say offer your "butt" and pray for "someone" to have vaseline or spare you from considerable pain... that isn't hope but fait.

But the church of Sh3, Sh4 have revealed that they go deep on the but without vaseline leaving unfinished business.

So you might have hope, good faith but in the end you were raped and still glad to be victims.


"...The game play is good..."

How come the play is any good when AI is more stupid than a snail? If you are happy wasting your money on buying a cripped half backed game then keep it to you otherwise you sound fool of your self.



Review of the Review done!

fool out!

[SimHq Tom Cofield]

Figures, there always has to be one guy that thinks I wasn't rough enough on the game.

Now I know how the Principal felt when he had to sit there and listen to Billy Madison's explanation of the Industrial Revolution.

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by SimHq Tom Cofield

Figures, there always has to be one guy that thinks I wasn't rough enough on the game.

Now I know how the Principal felt when he had to sit there and listen to Billy Madison's explanation of the Industrial Revolution.

Lol - you get used to it in this forum.

I wouldn't let it worry you, I for one thought it was a good review

[Rip]

Originally Posted by SimHq Tom Cofield

Figures, there always has to be one guy that thinks I wasn't rough enough on the game.

Now I know how the Principal felt when he had to sit there and listen to Billy Madison's explanation of the Industrial Revolution.

It was a very good review. Don't pay any attention to the detractors.

[Noren]

atleast his views of online DRM are the same as mine, look at the second link!

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by SimHq Tom Cofield

Figures, there always has to be one guy that thinks I wasn't rough enough on the game.

That's because they want it repeatedly bashed, day in, day out, with no regard for a fair and balanced review.

It's pathetic really, and you must question whether or not some of these 'critics' even have the game.

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by Nordmann

That's because they want it repeatedly bashed, day in, day out, with no regard for a fair and balanced review.

Agreed on both.

It's pathetic really, and you must question whether or not some of these 'critics' even have the game.

That's half the issue, they have it.
If they didn't, we would certainly have less immature rants.

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

That's half the issue, they have it.
If they didn't, we would certainly have less immature rants.

Not necessarily, there are always unscrupulous people who post negative comments on a game they do not own, and it would not surprise me if this forum in particular had more than its fair share.

[thyro]

Originally Posted by Nordmann

It's pathetic really, and you must question whether or not some of these 'critics' even have the game.

No need to be pathetic on buying a half backed bucked game!

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by thyro

No need to be pathetic on buying a half backed bucked game!

Here's an idea, don't like it? Go make your own. That way you can cater to your individual needs.

Originally Posted by SimHq Tom Cofield

Thyro, did you even read the review of the game?

I doubt it, he's one of the 'evil SH5' rant brigade, reading and comprehension are not exactly personal strengths!

[thyro]

Originally Posted by SimHq Tom Cofield

Figures, there always has to be one guy that thinks I wasn't rough enough on the game.

Now I know how the Principal felt when he had to sit there and listen to Billy Madison's explanation of the Industrial Revolution.

Certainly that always exit a guy that can make a concious decision on not following revision specially when most of the issues pointed out completely differ from the summary at the end.

There are two types of lovers, those that love someone who love back at same level or those that love someone who hit back with just pain. Same to say exist those gamers that are so blind that ignore all the problems just to recommend other gamers to buy crap just because they love a brand.

How can you hard recommend an UNFINISHED utterly bugged game beside the DRM abortion?

Good revision but very bad recommendation!

Nothing personal but this has to be said whatever you like or not otherwise you would add the question here if your revision were good.

happy days! Cheers

[SimHq Tom Cofield]

Originally Posted by thyro

Certainly that always exit a guy that can make a concious decision on not following revision specially when most of the issues pointed out completely differ from the summary at the end.

There are two types of lovers, those that love someone who love back at same level or those that love someone who hit back with just pain. Same to say exist those gamers that are so blind that ignore all the problems just to recommend other gamers to buy crap just because they love a brand.

How can you hard recommend an UNFINISHED utterly bugged game beside the DRM abortion?

Good revision but very bad recommendation!

Nothing personal but this has to be said whatever you like or not otherwise you would add the question here if your revision were good.

happy days! Cheers

Thyro, did you even read the review of the game?

I won't bother you to go and actually try reading it again but here is the final part of my review. Let me know how this is a recommendation to buy it.

Once players can get past these issues, there is a potential for a lot of fun with this game. There is a lot of good here and I honestly think that if Silent Hunter 5 follows the series history and is patched adequately, this will be a winner. Sadly, the fact is for right now, I cannot recommend Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic in its current condition.

That is not a recommendation.

[thyro]

Originally Posted by SimHq Tom Cofield

Thyro, did you even read the review of the game?

I won't bother you to go and actually try reading it again but here is the final part of my review. Let me know how this is a recommendation to buy it.

Once players can get past these issues, there is a potential for a lot of fun with this game. There is a lot of good here and I honestly think that if Silent Hunter 5 follows the series history and is patched adequately, this will be a winner. Sadly, the fact is for right now, I cannot recommend Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic in its current condition.

That is not a recommendation.

Dear Tom

No need patronising, ok! I've read it entirely review and recommendation otherwise I wouldn't be bothered to commenting on it. Apologies but I have to disagree with your remarks on the recommendation.

By pre-empting the recommendation with following phase on 1st line, you created expectation on potential buyer. So what you wrote next doesn't really matter, simply because you triggered the impulse on buying the game whatever state it is (its the best game in-depth on the market), when reality is well far from being the best game.

Boy, is this a hard game to not recommend. Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic is one of the more in-depth (no pun intended) games

The graphs are beautiful, the AI dummy shenanigans glitches might be sorted and sometime in the future the half game can become eventually a game. All true with one exception, no one knows the future and meantime another person wasted money on half product to remain on the shelve of being thrown in the bin.

Apologies if I'm being pedantic but that trick of saying good things to ease the pain and then end up disclaiming cannot recommend is a good trick in my view and for this reason only I cannot agree. As overall review it is fine and in some aspects detailed but all that work (to me got lost on that 1st phrase of your recommendation).

I have to agree with one thing... SH5 as good chances of becoming the most in-depth game on the market but not now, not even tomorrow. It will take time, most probably years... well IF IT GETS FINISHED.

Cheers