Annoying torpedo tubes!!!!

[Jan Kyster]

Oh, perhaps I (for once) was too quick?

Thought there was a command for "Open all tubes", but OP meant opening one tube will close the other - can't remember vanilla either

In real life you had people to do the job, so as a commander you could most certainly yell out a "Open all tubes!"

[peabody]

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

Thought there was a command for "Open all tubes", but OP meant opening one tube will close the other - can't remember vanilla either

I still play vanilla, ONLY CAUSE SOMEONE STOLE THE STAWBERRIES, and in a Fleet boat you can open all tubes, one at a time.

In the Uboat if you open one it closes the previously opened tube if you use the mouse to select the tube. If you use the W key to select the tube and Q to open it, then you can open all tubes one at a time.

Peabody

[Frumpkis]

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

In real life you had people to do the job, so as a commander you could most certainly yell out a "Open all tubes!"

Not from what I've read in the war memoirs, at least not an "open all tubes command."

The captain would yell "Open tubes 1, 2, and 3," or whatever he was absolutely sure was going to be used in the attack. Using tube numbers in the command immediately tells the crew whether it's a bow or stern attack (or both). "Open all tubes" is just a wee bit ambiguous. It does take time to do it in SH4 one at a time, but unless it's a panic situation, there should be plenty of time to set up an attack and open the tubes you need.

Also, for those role-playing for realism.... you'd never actually open all tubes at once unless it was a middle-of-the-convoy attack and you were going to empty both ends of the boat. In real life, flooding a tube was serious business with consequences for maintenance after the attack. If the tube wasn't actually fired, it had to be pumped out using compressed air you might need for other things. The torpedo had to be removed and the tube greased by hand to avoid corrosion. You'd never open a tube "just in case."

I know that not everybody uses a historical approach, and the game has no penalty for opening and closing tubes. At least the requirement to do it one at a time, gets a little closer to the reality.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Frumpkis

Also, for those role-playing for realism.... you'd never actually open all tubes at once unless it was a middle-of-the-convoy attack and you were going to empty both ends of the boat. In real life, flooding a tube was serious business with consequences for maintenance after the attack. If the tube wasn't actually fired, it had to be pumped out using compressed air you might need for other things. The torpedo had to be removed and the tube greased by hand to avoid corrosion. You'd never open a tube "just in case."

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Yeah. Those Mark 14's... from historical accounts i've read, any sea water on those finicky fish, and the torpedomen would be given them an overhaul. You only opened the outer door before you were ready to fire. You didn't sit with that fish in a flooded tube for very long. The longer it was flooded, the greater the chance it would result in a dud, or erratic behavior - or so ran the school of thought at the time.


At any rate, to open an outer door and have it NOT close while selecting another tube to open, it was some editing in the commands.cfg file that accomplished this, though it was a LONG time ago, so i dont remember the exact details of the edit.

[looney]

How did the tubes get opened? mechanicaly by hand or by pressing a button (hydraulic, elictric)?

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by looney

How did the tubes get opened? mechanicaly by hand or by pressing a button (hydraulic, elictric)?

i think mechanicaly. but i could be wrong.

[Jan Kyster]

They were opened by hydraulic - with option for hand operating...

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/fleetsub/hydr/chap3.htm#3E

On page 75 a schematic diagram is shown... I almost know this manual inside out

[Inner Sound]

Also, for those role-playing for realism.... you'd never actually open all tubes at once unless it was a middle-of-the-convoy attack and you were going to empty both ends of the boat. In real life, flooding a tube was serious business with consequences for maintenance after the attack. If the tube wasn't actually fired, it had to be pumped out using compressed air you might need for other things. The torpedo had to be removed and the tube greased by hand to avoid corrosion. You'd never open a tube "just in case."

That's fascinating, Frumpkis, adds to the realism, thanks.

So did other navies have the same thinking ? I'm wondering. Is it the same even today?