[REL] Navigation Map Make-Over with Airbases

[TH0R]

Originally Posted by Nbjackso

It should work with all mods, however it does overwrite US and Japan AirCover.mis files in RSRDC mods. Maybe lurker will check it and give some input on compatibility with RSRDC.

I play TMO + RSRDC and I have not noticed any change in the frequency of airplanes while playing with it. I like it because I can plot a course that skirts around known airbases.

I suggest you try it with whichever mods your using and report back here your findings.

I have suggested Luke to include this mod into RFB, at least parts of it. Will test with RFB_RSRDC after next patch comes out.

Since you created the mod, IMO it would be better that you compare the differences with the US and Japan AirCover.mis files in RSRDC.


EDIT: I decided to enable it anyway, and I have nothing but praises for this mod. Adds to the immersion tremendously, well for me at least.

[Nbjackso]

Originally Posted by TH0R

I have suggested Luke to include this mod into RFB, at least parts of it. Will test with RFB_RSRDC after next patch comes out.

That's funny you mentioned this, because I dissected it from an older version of RFB for SH4 1.4. since the original mod from Leovampire is no longer available.

Originally Posted by TH0R

Since you created the mod, IMO it would be better that you compare the differences with the US and Japan AirCover.mis files in RSRDC.

I did not create any files. I don't know how. I don't consider myself a modder, only a file manipulator to get different mods to work together with each other, and mostly for my own enjoyment.

Originally Posted by TH0R

EDIT: I decided to enable it anyway, and I have nothing but praises for this mod. Adds to the immersion tremendously, well for me at least.

Thank you

[TH0R]

Originally Posted by Nbjackso

I did not create any files. I don't know how. I don't consider myself a modder, only a file manipulator to get different mods to work together with each other, and mostly for my own enjoyment.

Let me rephrase my question then.

Which file did you 'manipulate' to activate this mod then? I am referring to US and Japan AirCover.mis files of course.

[Nbjackso]

Originally Posted by TH0R

Let me rephrase my question then.

Which file did you 'manipulate' to activate this mod then? I am referring to US and Japan AirCover.mis files of course.

OK, I pulled the files out of RFB v1.4 mod, (which is still in the subsim download page in the mega mod section).

I did change the .dds files, (I'm pretty good at that) in the Terrain/LocationMaps directory.

The only changes I made to the US and Japan Air Cover.mis files was removing the location names (LAB/NAB/SAB) from each individual airbase. Other than that, the files are the same as the ones in the RFB v1.4 mod.

Here is the link from Leovampire's original mod if you are interested. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=118989

[TH0R]

Thanks, that clears it.

Would you be interested in making it compatible with RSRDC v575? This way it will become compatible with all supermods out there that are compatible with RSRDC.

[Ducimus]

Nbjackso,

Is it ok if i include some of your aesthetic changes in TMO? I really like the new look of the nav map.

[ShadowWolf Kell]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Nbjackso,

Is it ok if i include some of your aesthetic changes in TMO? I really like the new look of the nav map.

Having this combined with the TMO Nav Chart Overhaul would be nice.

[Nbjackso]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Nbjackso,

Is it ok if i include some of your aesthetic changes in TMO? I really like the new look of the nav map.

Be my guest to use what ever you like.

[JoeCorrado]

Originally Posted by Nbjackso

OK, I pulled the files out of RFB v1.4 mod, (which is still in the subsim download page in the mega mod section).

I did change the .dds files, (I'm pretty good at that) in the Terrain/LocationMaps directory.

The only changes I made to the US and Japan Air Cover.mis files was removing the location names (LAB/NAB/SAB) from each individual airbase. Other than that, the files are the same as the ones in the RFB v1.4 mod.

Here is the link from Leovampire's original mod if you are interested. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=118989

Just so you know, I ran a file comparison between just the US_Aircover.mis files. The one included in your mod, and the current one in RSRDC_TMO_V502 and there are thousands of differences between the two. (File size also differs by about 10k bytes- that was the first clue! - The Jap_Aircover.mis files differ in size by over 30k bytes... a pattern is emerging here. LOL ) I am fairly confident that enabling your mod after RSRD will effectively break RSRD in some fashion.

Just so everybody understands, the old RFB file that you used is not even close to the new RSRD file.

And that was just the first of the files that were modded.

Making the changes to Lurkers files and including them in your release might be a better idea. I can't speak to the RFB release because I don't use it.

I also use TMO with RSRD and my work around was to enable RSRD after your mod and let Lurkers files over write yours- of course I lose the airbase emblems, etc- but the map is still nice.

You may want to message Lurker and bounce it off him for suggestions on compatibility. Since you also use RSRD, and RSRD_TMO is already compatible with TMO...

[Nbjackso]

Originally Posted by JoeCorrado

... I am fairly confident that enabling your mod after RSRD will effectively break RSRD in some fashion.

Just so everybody understands, the old RFB file that you used is not even close to the new RSRD file...

OK, Let me explain myself. First of all, I hate to type. That's why I don't post a lot. Secondly, I don't consider myself a modder. If I like part of mod blah blah, and part of mod hoo hoo, but they conflict in some way, I try to manipulate files to get them to work together. PRIMARILY for my OWN personal use and enjoyment. If I make something I like, and it seems to work without messing up other mods, and if I think other people might like it. I release it. If anyone comments on any of my mods, I try to respond as best as I can. If they like parts of it, and not other parts. I try to work with them to get what they want.

As far as NMMO is concerned, I liked the airbases back when I played RFB 1.4. I wanted them back, so I found the thread for Leovampire's vs4 mod, but the link was dead. So I pulled the files out of RFB 1.4, combined it with some other nav map mods I liked, and that's how I came up with the mod.

I like knowing where the airbases are when I am out on patrol. I draw a 600 mile radius around any airbases that I have to sail past, and try to navigate around them, (if possible). I seem to encounter a lot less enemy air contacts. If I get within range of an airbase, I start getting plane contacts, and it makes logical sense where they came from. Reality or not, It works for me. Are the airbases 100% accurate? I don't know. I didn't make them, but it looks, (and plays) good enough for me.

If it sounds like I'm flaming, I'm not. I just thought I would explain what color the sky is in MY world.

[JoeCorrado]

Originally Posted by Nbjackso

It should work with all mods, however it does overwrite US and Japan AirCover.mis files in RSRDC mods.

Originally Posted by Nbjackso

Maybe lurker will check it and give some input on compatibility with RSRDC.

I suggest you try it with whichever mods your using and report back here your findings.

I appreciate the fact that you took the time and spent the effort to put this fine offering together. I am certain that many others here appreciate it as well. Nice job.

You asked that we take a look with an eye towards conflicts, and report our findings here for you. I did EXACTLY as you asked.

Simply giving you a cordial heads up that there seems to be the potential (at the very least) for huge conflicts. Lurker would know for sure.

The suggestion that you contact Lurker and ask him directly, instead of waiting for him to notice the thread and contact you instead... well, I suppose you are right... the very concept must seem silly, eh?

Sorry for the suggestion- just pretend it never happened.